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VAL Digest Friday, April 9 2004 Volume 01 : Number 212
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Topics in Today's Digest:
Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
[VAL] tank valves
[VAL] RE: Window/Screen Question
[VAL] Fresh Water Tank
[VAL] introduce myself and my baby
Re: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
Re: [VAL] tank valves
Re: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
Re: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
RE: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
Re: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
Re: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
Re: [VAL] Shower door replacement?
Re: [VAL] International? and other information
[VAL] Re: [VAL zolotone
Re: [VAL] International? and other information
Re: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
[VAL] Mystery plate?
Re: [VAL] Mystery plate?
Re: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
Re: [VAL] Mystery plate?
Re: [VAL] Mystery plate?
Re: [VAL] Re: [VAL zolotone
Re: [VAL] RE: Window/Screen Question
Re: [VAL]Renovated unit/storing
Re: [VAL] Screen spline?
Re: [VAL] Re: [VAL zolotone
RE: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
Re: [VAL] bronze dump valve
Re: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
Re: [VAL] Screen spline?
[VAL] PestPatrol reviewed by PC Magazine
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:13:16 -0600
From: "JP Polly" <jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
There is a section in the Home Depot that carries the frame material for
screens and storm windows. You could make your own custom frames.
Polly in CO
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 09:45:12 -0400
From: Gary <verygary@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] tank valves
The subject of tank valves got my attention and have a few questions. I
am approaching the final stretch of my Safari renovation and have
carefully avoided performing the water holding test. The valve was stuck
when I first tried to open it, but with a generous spray down of
lubricant and a firmer pull on the tee handle it slid in and out fairly
easily. I was happy to see that it operated so well and should have
tried the well holding test at that time, but I was a bit overwhelmed by
floor section replacement and waterproofing as a priority to protect the
work as I was proceeding on the interior. Last fall I removed to toilet
thinking it would be just as easy to replace it with a new one. I am
always looking for more ways to spend more money and this seemed like a
good candidate to just replace. After removal and inspection, it was in
perfect condition and seals were cleaned and replaced. While it was
out, I inspected the inside of the black water tank with flashlight and
mirrors and the tank looked perfect. This would have been the best time
to do the water test on the seal. But the weather was turning cold and
on that day I once again thought it best to keep it dry until spring.
It's Spring.... and Chris Elliott's comment about replacement gaskets
and their unavailability is scary. I would think valve replacement is
not something one does with the tank in place either? Next week I will
do the water holding test.
Depending on how it goes I will be out and about on Safari, or under and
over until everything is road ready.
Thoughts on valves and gaskets and replacements?
Thanks.
Gary Campbell
62' Safari
Portland, Maine
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 07:14:55 -0700
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] RE: Window/Screen Question
It's plain old "single strength glass" (3/32").
Here's how I replaced all the screens on our '56
http://vintageairstream.com/floyd/restoration/windows.html
and some background window info:
http://vintageairstream.com/FAQ/FAQ_8.html
Best of luck,
RJ
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:40:34 -0500
From: "Brian Jenkins" <jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
Hello All,
I'm replacing a window on my '56 Caravanner that had a piece of plex in
it,
and would like to know if anyone has the specifications for the glass.
Can
someone tell me the thickness, and if it is tempered in some way? I'm
also
doing the screens, and I can't seem to find an installation wheel that's
small enough to crease the screen into the perimeter groove. If anyone
can
offer a solution, I'd appreciate it.
Thanks,
Brian Jenkins
#7819
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 08:13:37 -0700
From: "Barbara Gallegos" <bgallegos1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
We just moved our 75 Ambassador from a trailer park where we were hooked up
for over 10 yrs. We had never filled our fresh water tank until last week.
We turned the water pump on and didn't get water. The pump is running and
sounds good, but not having access to manuals, we're stumped. Is there a
valve to turn on to get the water into the unit? What steps do we need to
take to check out the water pump? We will have water service to the
property in 2-3 weeks (hopefully) and once that happens, we'd like to empty
the fresh water tank. Is there a release valve to empty it?
Also, the transformer has always had a loud buzzing. What's causing it and
can it be fixed?
Thanks for your help.
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> [VAL] Re: VAL emptying the black tank
> [VAL] interesting experience
> RE: [VAL]Renovated unit/storing
> [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> Re: [VAL]Renovated unit/storing
> Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> RE: [VAL]Renovated unit/storing
> RE: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> RE: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> RE: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> [VAL] Shower door replacement?
> Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> Re: [VAL] Shower door replacement?
> Re: [VAL] Re: VAL emptying the black tank
> Re: [VAL] Shower door replacement?
> Re: [VAL] Re: VAL emptying the black tank
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 09:27:24 -0400
> From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
> Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL emptying the black tank
>
> The dump valve on my '60 was replaced a couple of decades ago, but if
> memory serves me we had to turn it before pulling it out.
>
> Scott
>
> > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 20:54:17 -0400
> > From: "Nick & Ruth Warren" <nickruthwarren@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > Subject: [VAL] emptying the black tank
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I can't seem to empty the black tank on our 61' Tradewind. There is a
> > square pipe sticking out of the side of the trailer just next to the
> hookup,
> > I thought all you had to do was pull. It won't budge, is there
something
> > I'm missing or do I need to apply the "brute force and ingnorance"
> > technique?
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Ruth Warren & The Tin Can Clan.
> > Currently on I95, 170 miles north of Miami.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:13:19 EDT
> From: AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] interesting experience
>
> Heyall!
> I traveled 2.5 hours yesterday to follow a lead on a 66 Ambassador which
> didn't pan out but will share with the group.
> It was towed to Flagstaff, AZ to be purchased and the buyer refused it so
the
> tow yard impounded it and put it up for sale. I met the guy at the yard
and
> the 1st Thing outa his mouth was " I DONT GET WHAT YOU GUYS SEE IN THESE
> THINGS"!!!
> Well, after composing myself I set him straight!
> It's a pretty rough unit with no glass and a few plexi replacements.
> It's only redeeming value is that it's a center FULL set up!
> The skin is good and it still has all the orig. implements.
> Anyone who might wanna think about saving it from the wrath of a fool can
> contact me for PICS and more info!
>
> AlanT
> Phx AZ
> 78 Arg.30
> 93 Dodge Diesel
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 10:58:30 -0400
> From: "Alexis Evans" <lexxy@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: RE: [VAL]Renovated unit/storing
>
> We are finishing our unit finally. I posted photos at
> http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/642
>
> I hope they are accessible to anyone who remembers all my questions and
> tribulations. We redid everything...all systems and cabinets and I am
> finishing the cushions and curtains now.
>
> We won't even be able to use it much due to selling our house so quickly
> and finding a 40' sailboat we like so it looks like now we will be
> storing it. We have $8000 in just equipment to do this job and not
> counting labor and sweat. I don't think I could get any significant
> money back so I guess we will store it for about 5 years and try to use
> it when we finish sailing.
>
> I need advice on what I need to do to store it long term. My sister can
> check on it but I know I should do something to the systems besides put
> antifreeze in the water system. I suppose I should take out the
> battery...it is new and maybe I can sell it to someone around No Fla or
> south Ga. I will be leaving it in Jacksonville Fla where my sister is
> storing our other stuff but this A/S will probably be in an RV place
> since I don't think I can get it into her backyard. I know this thing is
> gonna mildew so I will remove the fabrics and store them elsewhere.
>
> Please write me with any help at lexxy@xxxxxxxxxx.net. So many folks have
> helped me along the way...I really appreciate this list. At least if we
> keep it we won't be homeless when we return in about 5 years [if our
> health holds out and we don't stay in Tahiti].
>
> If anyone knows of someone just dying for our trailer I would sell it
> at a fair price...but I did get attached to it emotionally as I'm sure
> you all understand. It still needs new wheels and an A/C but the new
> circuit wiring is all there and ready...I just wasn't going to put more
> into it to store it. The range, vent fan, pump, converter, wiring,
> outside hookup in the skin and 30amp cord, pex plumbing, floor, inside
> walls and cabinets, toilet [Sealand],hardware, fans, 5 windows, all
> window and door seals, high quality foam cushions, lined curtains are
> all new. The bath was removed and completely refinished. The koa wood
> [from Maui] veneered table is removable from the floor also.
>
> Lexxy in GA for now...soon to be the open sea!!!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:40:34 -0500
> From: "Brian Jenkins" <jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
> Hello All,
>
> I'm replacing a window on my '56 Caravanner that had a piece of plex in
it,
> and would like to know if anyone has the specifications for the glass. Can
> someone tell me the thickness, and if it is tempered in some way? I'm also
> doing the screens, and I can't seem to find an installation wheel that's
> small enough to crease the screen into the perimeter groove. If anyone can
> offer a solution, I'd appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
> Brian Jenkins
> #7819
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:34:09 -0700
> From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
> Brian,
>
> I too need to replace the screen in my front window and bought the
tool
> to roll the spline into the slot and it may be what you're looking for
too.
> I have in my hand the very tool I bought at Builders Emporium. It's made
by
> the Phifer Wire Products company, called a Screen Installation Tool
> Di-it-yourself. It's in a blue and white package. The part number shown
> beneath the bar code reads: 047888098750. I did go to their web site,
> alas, only to find that they don't even list it but what I did find is an
> instruction page for installing screen that shows their tool in use. You
> can see it at http://www.phifer.com/rescreen.htm.
>
> Here's hoping that this helps. By the way, I bought the wrong size
> spline when I got the new screen material and will be going out today to
get
> the right stuff. It looks like the slot in the aluminum around my window
is
> smack-dab on 1/8", the exact the thickness of the wheels on the
installation
> tool. One tool has a concave slot in it's circumference and the other is
> convex. The referenced instructions above explain it all. I can't wait
to
> do it now, thanks.
>
> Glyn Judson
> 1969 Caravel #508
> Santa Monica CA
>
> > From: "Brian Jenkins" <jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:40:34 -0500
> > To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > Subject: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> >
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I'm replacing a window on my '56 Caravanner that had a piece of plex in
it,
> > and would like to know if anyone has the specifications for the glass.
Can
> > someone tell me the thickness, and if it is tempered in some way? I'm
also
> > doing the screens, and I can't seem to find an installation wheel that's
> > small enough to crease the screen into the perimeter groove. If anyone
can
> > offer a solution, I'd appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian Jenkins
> > #7819
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:56:54 -0400
> From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
> Glyn,
>
> Buy extra screening. If that wheel slips and hits the screen - well, you
> might say some bad words. ;)
>
> Tom
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glyn Judson" <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
>
> > Brian,
> >
> > I too need to replace the screen in my front window and bought the
> tool
> > to roll the spline into the slot and it may be what you're looking for
> too.
> > I have in my hand the very tool I bought at Builders Emporium. It's
made
> by
> > the Phifer Wire Products company, called a Screen Installation Tool
> > Di-it-yourself. It's in a blue and white package. The part number
shown
> > beneath the bar code reads: 047888098750. I did go to their web site,
> > alas, only to find that they don't even list it but what I did find is
an
> > instruction page for installing screen that shows their tool in use.
You
> > can see it at http://www.phifer.com/rescreen.htm.
> >
> > Here's hoping that this helps. By the way, I bought the wrong size
> > spline when I got the new screen material and will be going out today to
> get
> > the right stuff. It looks like the slot in the aluminum around my
window
> is
> > smack-dab on 1/8", the exact the thickness of the wheels on the
> installation
> > tool. One tool has a concave slot in it's circumference and the other
is
> > convex. The referenced instructions above explain it all. I can't wait
> to
> > do it now, thanks.
> >
> > Glyn Judson
> > 1969 Caravel #508
> > Santa Monica CA
> >
> > > From: "Brian Jenkins" <jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > > Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > > Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:40:34 -0500
> > > To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > > Subject: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> > >
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > I'm replacing a window on my '56 Caravanner that had a piece of plex
in
> it,
> > > and would like to know if anyone has the specifications for the glass.
> Can
> > > someone tell me the thickness, and if it is tempered in some way? I'm
> also
> > > doing the screens, and I can't seem to find an installation wheel
that's
> > > small enough to crease the screen into the perimeter groove. If anyone
> can
> > > offer a solution, I'd appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Brian Jenkins
> > > #7819
> > >
> > > _________________________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 11:42:28 -0700
> From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
> Subject: Re: [VAL]Renovated unit/storing
>
> Bon Voyage to Lexy and company - and I got to say, as a Louisiana
> native, the best thing you could do for the Airstream is to drive it to
> Az or Nevada and store it there then fly home. I hate to think about 5
> yrs in Florida storage!!
> The poor thing.
> Jo Ann
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 11:22:47 -0700
> From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
> Tom,
>
> By incredible coincidence I bought waaay more screen than I needed.
> Your cautionary note will insure that I over bought though.
>
> I'm out the door right now to get the proper sized spline.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glyn
>
> > From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> > Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:56:54 -0400
> > To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > Subject: Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> >
> > Glyn,
> >
> > Buy extra screening. If that wheel slips and hits the screen - well,
you
> > might say some bad words. ;)
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Glyn Judson" <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:34 PM
> > Subject: Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> >
> >
> >> Brian,
> >>
> >> I too need to replace the screen in my front window and bought the
> > tool
> >> to roll the spline into the slot and it may be what you're looking for
> > too.
> >> I have in my hand the very tool I bought at Builders Emporium. It's
made
> > by
> >> the Phifer Wire Products company, called a Screen Installation Tool
> >> Di-it-yourself. It's in a blue and white package. The part number
shown
> >> beneath the bar code reads: 047888098750. I did go to their web site,
> >> alas, only to find that they don't even list it but what I did find is
an
> >> instruction page for installing screen that shows their tool in use.
You
> >> can see it at http://www.phifer.com/rescreen.htm.
> >>
> >> Here's hoping that this helps. By the way, I bought the wrong size
> >> spline when I got the new screen material and will be going out today
to
> > get
> >> the right stuff. It looks like the slot in the aluminum around my
window
> > is
> >> smack-dab on 1/8", the exact the thickness of the wheels on the
> > installation
> >> tool. One tool has a concave slot in it's circumference and the other
is
> >> convex. The referenced instructions above explain it all. I can't
wait
> > to
> >> do it now, thanks.
> >>
> >> Glyn Judson
> >> 1969 Caravel #508
> >> Santa Monica CA
> >>
> >>> From: "Brian Jenkins" <jenkins1924@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> >>> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> >>> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 10:40:34 -0500
> >>> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> >>> Subject: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> >>>
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>> I'm replacing a window on my '56 Caravanner that had a piece of plex
in
> > it,
> >>> and would like to know if anyone has the specifications for the glass.
> > Can
> >>> someone tell me the thickness, and if it is tempered in some way? I'm
> > also
> >>> doing the screens, and I can't seem to find an installation wheel
that's
> >>> small enough to crease the screen into the perimeter groove. If anyone
> > can
> >>> offer a solution, I'd appreciate it.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Brian Jenkins
> >>> #7819
> >>>
> >>> _________________________________________________________________
> >>> Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar FREE!
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:03:21 -0400
> From: "Alexis Evans" <lexxy@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: RE: [VAL]Renovated unit/storing
>
> Actually just as I wrote the message a deal fell into our laps...the new
> house owners are gonna store it for us and watch it for mildew
> too...these are folks who already have the house in back of ours and
> with our property they will have 9 acres now so they have the space and
> we go to the same church...God just sent them to buy our house at over
> the appraised value even before it was listed and now with luck and the
> fact they are even keeping the old loveable cat too, I figure some
> divine guidance is going on!!!
>
> They have a bigger tow vehicle than ours and tow their horses and I told
> them I would give them all the info and info on this list and let them
> learn to use it....better than sitting in damp old FLA!!! We agreed to
> a written agreement in trade for some furniture I was trying to
> sell...what a deal. I feel like I won the lottery. Now I just have to
> make 2 more curtains and 6 more cushions and it will be spiffy!!! I'm
> pretty tired of mowing 4 acres!!!
>
> We are flying to Dallas to see a boat in 2 weeks and could be sailing by
> summer...dreams do come true if you work at it for 31 years!!!
> Thanks Joann
>
> Lexxy...still in GA for today...moving the first load out on Friday!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > [mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of Joann Wheatley
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:42 PM
> > To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > Subject: Re: [VAL]Renovated unit/storing
> >
> >
> > Bon Voyage to Lexy and company - and I got to say, as a Louisiana
> > native, the best thing you could do for the Airstream is to
> > drive it to
> > Az or Nevada and store it there then fly home. I hate to
> > think about 5
> > yrs in Florida storage!!
> > The poor thing.
> > Jo Ann
> >
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> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:06:25 -0400
> From: "Alexis Evans" <lexxy@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: RE: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
> Talking about screening...I am missing 3 screens and they are about
> impossible to get. I was gonna use velcro riveted on to the frame and on
> the screen and attach it. Has anyone done this? I have one small curved
> window to do and 2 large ones.
> Lexxy
> Dewdrop 22' '67 Safari
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:41:34 -0400
> From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
> Your screen have frames? Separate frames? Pictures please?
>
> Tom
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexis Evans" <lexxy@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:06 PM
> Subject: RE: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
>
> > Talking about screening...I am missing 3 screens and they are about
> > impossible to get. I was gonna use velcro riveted on to the frame and on
> > the screen and attach it. Has anyone done this? I have one small curved
> > window to do and 2 large ones.
> > Lexxy
> > Dewdrop 22' '67 Safari
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 18:42:13 -0400
> From: "Peter Ryner" <pryner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: RE: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
> I have a full set of screens available from a '68 ambassador. Please
> contact me off list if anyone is interested.
> Pete
>
>
> > Talking about screening...I am missing 3 screens and they are about
> > impossible to get. I was gonna use velcro riveted on to the frame and on
> > the screen and attach it. Has anyone done this? I have one small curved
> > window to do and 2 large ones.
> > Lexxy
> > Dewdrop 22' '67 Safari
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 18:49:32 -0400
> From: "Alexis Evans" <lexxy@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: RE: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
> The screens have an aluminum frame with screening in them but I need 3
> more. Do you know where I could get some? When we got this traile they
> just weren''t there and I don't know how to get any made.
> Lexxy
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > [mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of Tom
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:42 PM
> > To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > Subject: Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> >
> >
> > Your screen have frames? Separate frames? Pictures please?
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alexis Evans" <lexxy@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:06 PM
> > Subject: RE: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
> >
> >
> > > Talking about screening...I am missing 3 screens and they are about
> > > impossible to get. I was gonna use velcro riveted on to the
> > frame and
> > > on the screen and attach it. Has anyone done this? I have one small
> > > curved window to do and 2 large ones. Lexxy
> > > Dewdrop 22' '67 Safari
> > >
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> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 19:19:02 -0400
> From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
> I thought our 1969 Int'l Ambassador doesn't have separate screens except
for
> the overhead vents which do have frames. Sorry, I don't know where you
will
> get screens. You idea for Velcro works on boats so it should work on
> Airstreams, too.
>
> Tom
>
> > The screens have an aluminum frame with screening in them but I need 3
> > more. Do you know where I could get some? When we got this traile they
> > just weren''t there and I don't know how to get any made.
> > Lexxy
>
> > > Your screen have frames? Separate frames? Pictures please?
> > > Tom
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 17:55:02 -0500
> From: Cheyanne & Randy <bayoubuddies@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: [VAL] Shower door replacement?
>
> Does anyone know where I can get a replacement shower door for my 1977
> Overlander? It is a sliding door and one of the sections is broken.
> Could I just replace that section or do I need a whole new door? thnks
> for your help.
> Cheyanne
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 19:51:53 -0400
> From: "Jim Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
> Lexxy, I think Home Depot will have the aluminum extrusions to make
> replacement screen frames. You will need to miter the corners and it goes
> together with "L" shaped angles that slide into the corners to hold
> everything together.
>
> Jim Greene
> ' 68 Tradewind
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alexis Evans" <lexxy@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:49 PM
> Subject: RE: [VAL] Window/Screen Question
>
>
> > The screens have an aluminum frame with screening in them but I need 3
> > more. Do you know where I could get some? When we got this traile they
> > just weren''t there and I don't know how to get any made.
> > Lexxy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 21:11:10 -0400
> From: Blair <hitek_airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Shower door replacement?
>
> Cheyanne -
>
> Measure your door and check out the accordion doors at Home Depot and
Lowes.
>
> They have many types that will fit.
>
> OR you can go to camper World, or another dealer and Pay RV prices.
>
> Blair
>
> Hangin in Chattanooga
>
> Because Time Fly's
>
>
> At 05:55 PM 4/7/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know where I can get a replacement shower door for my 1977
> >Overlander? It is a sliding door and one of the sections is broken.
> >Could I just replace that section or do I need a whole new door? thnks
> >for your help.
> >Cheyanne
> >
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> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 21:27:55 -0400
> From: "Nick & Ruth Warren" <nickruthwarren@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL emptying the black tank
>
> Thanks Scott,
> definately not a turn here, the square lever disappears into a perfectly
> fitting hole in the skin - so no room for turning. Thanks though. I have
> continued to pull and push with all my might and nothing gives.
>
> Any other thoughts, anyone?
>
> Ruth Warren
> 1961 Tradewind
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 20:32:56 -0500
> From: Cheyanne & Randy <bayoubuddies@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Shower door replacement?
>
> Thanks!!! I am headed for Home Depot for a shower door! Isn't it
> amazing how much a markup there is on RV specific stuff when it is
> basically the same thing?
>
> Thanks again, Cheyanne
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 22:24:51 -0400
> From: Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL emptying the black tank
>
> Ruth ,
> On my 63 , and I assume on your 61 , on the other end of the handle your
> pulling on is a very nice bronze casting , which has a slide in it and a
> rubber gasket which has most likely dried out and stuck to the slide .
Does it
> hold water ? Few do by now , and as near as I know , replacement gasket
kits
> are no longer available . There was aguy on the list who was going to
> fabricate some , evidently was in the rubber biziness , but I havent heard
any
> more about it .
> I would think this would be a major topic of discussion here ,
because of
> the way the drains for the sink come together under the slide in this
bronze
> casting - it is imposible to duplicate with any abs or pvc fittings I have
> seen , without making a plumbers nightmare that hangs below the belly pan
. I
> am thinking the way for me to go is a holding tank for the kitchen sink
grey
> water with aseperarate 1.5 inch slide valve . I like having all the waste
> water come out of the same exit , but havent figured a way to make it work
> with modern fittings . This is on of my next projects , as I am about to
spray
> new paint inside and lay new linoleum , after that comes the holding tank
.
> Anyone had success rebuilding th old bronze dump valve - or good Ideas
> about plumbing design with modern fittings on early 60s models ? Those of
you
> with original valves - how do you keep them operational ? Mine leaked like
a
> peach basket .
> Chris Elliott 63 flying Cloud
>
>
>
> Nick & Ruth Warren wrote:
>
> > Thanks Scott,
> > definately not a turn here, the square lever disappears into a perfectly
> > fitting hole in the skin - so no room for turning. Thanks though. I
have
> > continued to pull and push with all my might and nothing gives.
> >
> > Any other thoughts, anyone?
> >
> > Ruth Warren
> > 1961 Tradewind
> >
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:13:23 -0500
From: "Cathy Townley-McGaughey" <cathytownley@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
Hullo, everybody.
Would like to introduce ourselves. Joe and Cathy McGaughey. Bought our '62
International at the turn of the century, has been in storage and just now
am able to start working on it. Can everyone stand another 'how we found
our little jewel' story? Wellll, my husband, Joe, and I were driving down
45 into Galveston, just past the causeway when he saw an old travel trailer
for sale by an RV park. He whisked our car off the road toward the trailer
so fast I nearly fell out the door. We had discussed buying a travel
trailer about 2 years before and agreed that we were not that close to
retirement yet and wouldn't have time to use it much as we both worked -
classic case of ignorant thinking. As he disappeared into the office to ask
price, I sat in the car with a huge frown on my face looking at the worst
piece of junk I thought I had ever seen. Add to that is the fact that I am
claustrophobic and it looked like a death capsule from star trek to me. My
husband didn't come out of the office so after a few min. of silent cussing
I got out of the car and, being the generous soul I am, went over to the
death capsule and begin to try to find SOMETHING good about it.
The minute my hand touched the warm, tarnished aluminum skin at the end of
the trailer by the rockguard and rusted out propane tanks, I fell in love.
My husband came out of the office to find me literally leaning on it with
arms outstretched, soaking up the feel of 'Airstream'. He had talked the
park owner down to $650 and had come out to ask me what I thought. I
haven't stopped yet telling him what a brilliant man he is, about this
purchase anyway.
Well, to bring ya'll up to present time... We hooked up our treasure to the
surburbon and towed it home, 5 miles, after we had someone come out and tape
up the rear belly pan which was half off and trailing the asphalpt. Did I
mention it had been set up as a live-in and the last tenants had painted the
walls and cabinets black and used chalk to decorate with? All in all, I
think the poor thing was desperate for someone to love and appreciate it and
that it reached out to me that day. Call me sentimental, OK.
Our neighbors were not. They ALL hated it on first site and went so far as
to call the city and have the code inforcement offices out to demand we
remove it from the neighborhood! It was just setting there in front of our
garage ON OUR OWN PROPERTY NOT IN THE STREET, I had become quite proud of
it, too, after surfing the net and getting values and other personal stories
about Airstreams. Life is not fair. We located a local RV park that would
store it for us and took it there to be visited every week and checked on
too frequently (per the RV park manager who I think decided we didn't trust
him to keep it safe - but he DID say several people asked him about buying
it) It was in storage 2 years there.
We moved to East Texas, bought an acre of land and finally had the baby
towed home. It sat there 2 years and was top on the list of things we
needed to do and projects to start. Mistake... never move close to your
grown kids and think you will ever again have time to get anything done in
your life time.
How we longed for the simple life again. We moved to Garrison, TX just
before Christmas and towed the baby out here last month. The house we bought
has an RV hookup right beside it. We bought a 1999 Ford F250 with a V10 in
it. (Surburbon was stolen in Galveston the week before we moved away) We
are READY!
Let's get goin' on the fixin',
CAT
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:05:08 -0400
From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
In order to pump water "from" the tank you must first put water "into" the
tank. I am not aware of anything that would allow you to be hooked up to a
city water supply and be able to fill the fresh water tank from inside the
trailer.
I believe you will have to use a water hose and from outside the trailer,
open the fill cap "to" the fresh water tank and then begin filling up the
tank that way. I am not aware of any in-line valves for you to switch this
way or that way to fill your tank up.
Find the fill cap on the trailer exterior, open the cap, put the hose into
the filler neck and begin to fill the fresh water holding tank. Do not
reconnect to the city water supply if you want to use the fresh water
holding tank. Once the tank has some water in it you can go inside the
trailer and open a faucet; you should be hearing the water pump running
then. And hopefully you will not have any leaks in any lines from the fresh
water holding tank to all the faucets and toilet.
There are valves underneath the trailers to empty the fresh water holding
tanks - these valves may even be in the "trunk" area at the rear of the
trailer, I'm not personally familiar with your model. But ALL these
trailers have valves, usually household outside spigot valves that open and
close the same was as a spigot on the side of a house. Look for them, you
will find them I am sure.
Tom
WBCCI 5303
From: "Barbara Gallegos" <bgallegos1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> We just moved our 75 Ambassador from a trailer park where we were hooked
up
> for over 10 yrs. We had never filled our fresh water tank until last
week.
> We turned the water pump on and didn't get water. The pump is running and
> sounds good, but not having access to manuals, we're stumped. Is there a
> valve to turn on to get the water into the unit? What steps do we need to
> take to check out the water pump? We will have water service to the
> property in 2-3 weeks (hopefully) and once that happens, we'd like to
empty
> the fresh water tank. Is there a release valve to empty it?
Also, the transformer has always had a loud buzzing. What's causing it and
> can it be fixed?
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:18:13 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <joytbrew@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] tank valves
Hi Gary,
Since I've replaced the OEM Thetford gate valve with something more
reasonably priced, I'm compelled to ask you to verify that the lubricant
you used to free the gate was compatible with the rubber seal. To my
knowledge this rubber material is pretty tough, but not to all petroleum
chemicals. It's my thought that a penetrating oil would destroy the seal.
The gate would operate, but not seal under pressure. The pull rod is
subject to corrosion and freezes, the gate sticks to the seal due to lack of
proper lubricant. If you can separate the gate valve, it would be prudent
to replace the seal.
A replacement was necessary in my Safari due to bolts swelled by rust and
impossible to remove from the plastic. My task was to drop the tank for
floor replacement and construction of a new housing and frame repair.
Like you, I'm not yet tested any of my restoration for water integrity. You
can appreciate that I had to remove all the plumbing by cutting and use
unions and rubber couplings to get the thing back together in the very
confined space. I've not yet remounted the tub, commode or the sink
plumbing. Just need a little round-to-it time.
That said, if I were to do this again, I'd use an above floor black water
tank on which would sit the commode (like my '74 Argosy) or other later
models where the tank sits in a corner of the bath and the dump drops
outside the frame rail. The existing black water could be used as a gray
water tank. You might try to look at how the above floor black water tanks
are constructed. The tanks hold about 12 gallons and would seldom be filled
while traveling. I easily lost 100 pounds from the rear of the Safari when
I replaced the OEM charger with a Intelli Power and the OEM water heater
with a modern replacement. The porcelain Thetford sure looked nice, but
replacement seals are near impossible to replace, so I went with a modern
version that shed many pounds.
The replacement Dexter axle still rests on the ground outside the Safari .
. .
Hope this is of some use for your purpose.
Regards, '69 Safari, Joy
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary" <verygary@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
> carefully avoided performing the water holding test. The valve was stuck
> when I first tried to open it, but with a generous spray down of
> lubricant and a firmer pull on the tee handle it slid in and out fairly
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 10:33:44 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
> Hullo, everybody.
> Would like to introduce ourselves. Joe and Cathy McGaughey. Bought our
'62
> International at the turn of the century, has been in storage and just now
> am able to start working on it
Welcome to the group Joe and Cathy. First thing you should do is tell us
what model it is. International is not a model. Could be anywhere from a
Bambi 16' to a Sovereign 30'.
Have fun,
GQ '67 Safari
4082 in CA
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:32:49 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
Hi CAT Welcome !
There are more of us than you might think that have a to do list that
gets in the way of our silver toy (s). Don't forget to take pictures so
we can see what you started with. Always an education to see what $650
will buy if you're lucky.
Daisy
Cathy Townley-McGaughey wrote:
> Hullo, everybody.
> Would like to introduce ourselves. Joe and Cathy McGaughey. Bought our '62
> International at the turn of the century, has been in storage and just now
> am able to start working on it. Can everyone stand another 'how we found
> our little jewel' story? Wellll, my husband, Joe, and I were driving down
> 45 into Galveston, just past the causeway when he saw an old travel trailer
> for sale by an RV park. He whisked our car off the road toward the trailer
> so fast I nearly fell out the door. We had discussed buying a travel
> trailer about 2 years before and agreed that we were not that close to
> retirement yet and wouldn't have time to use it much as we both worked -
> classic case of ignorant thinking. As he disappeared into the office to ask
> price, I sat in the car with a huge frown on my face looking at the worst
> piece of junk I thought I had ever seen. Add to that is the fact that I am
> claustrophobic and it looked like a death capsule from star trek to me. My
> husband didn't come out of the office so after a few min. of silent cussing
> I got out of the car and, being the generous soul I am, went over to the
> death capsule and begin to try to find SOMETHING good about it.
> The minute my hand touched the warm, tarnished aluminum skin at the end of
> the trailer by the rockguard and rusted out propane tanks, I fell in love.
> My husband came out of the office to find me literally leaning on it with
> arms outstretched, soaking up the feel of 'Airstream'. He had talked the
> park owner down to $650 and had come out to ask me what I thought. I
> haven't stopped yet telling him what a brilliant man he is, about this
> purchase anyway.
> Well, to bring ya'll up to present time... We hooked up our treasure to the
> surburbon and towed it home, 5 miles, after we had someone come out and tape
> up the rear belly pan which was half off and trailing the asphalpt. Did I
> mention it had been set up as a live-in and the last tenants had painted the
> walls and cabinets black and used chalk to decorate with? All in all, I
> think the poor thing was desperate for someone to love and appreciate it and
> that it reached out to me that day. Call me sentimental, OK.
>
> Our neighbors were not. They ALL hated it on first site and went so far as
> to call the city and have the code inforcement offices out to demand we
> remove it from the neighborhood! It was just setting there in front of our
> garage ON OUR OWN PROPERTY NOT IN THE STREET, I had become quite proud of
> it, too, after surfing the net and getting values and other personal stories
> about Airstreams. Life is not fair. We located a local RV park that would
> store it for us and took it there to be visited every week and checked on
> too frequently (per the RV park manager who I think decided we didn't trust
> him to keep it safe - but he DID say several people asked him about buying
> it) It was in storage 2 years there.
>
> We moved to East Texas, bought an acre of land and finally had the baby
> towed home. It sat there 2 years and was top on the list of things we
> needed to do and projects to start. Mistake... never move close to your
> grown kids and think you will ever again have time to get anything done in
> your life time.
>
> How we longed for the simple life again. We moved to Garrison, TX just
> before Christmas and towed the baby out here last month. The house we bought
> has an RV hookup right beside it. We bought a 1999 Ford F250 with a V10 in
> it. (Surburbon was stolen in Galveston the week before we moved away) We
> are READY!
>
> Let's get goin' on the fixin',
> CAT
>
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 13:39:23 -0400
From: "Peter Ryner" <pryner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
My '68 has a faucte type valve and a loop which allows me to fill the tank
from the city water supply. If you forget to close the valve the pump will
run all day and not move an ounce of water. The valve is on the drivers
side just forward of the water pump. Mine is underneath the couch so it is
a little difficult to get to. It also has the outside filler. There is
also a valve to open the tank drain just forward of the filler valve. I
think they are original as the system is shown in the owner's manual water
schematic. Feel free to contact me off line and I'll make a jpg of the
schematic.
When you talk of the transformer are you talking about the UNIVOLT? If so,
the only way I know to get rid of the loud buzzing is to replace it with a
new converter. There are several good ones on the market. Some also have
charge wizzard avilable to plug into the intellipower which tends the
battery. Very good option.
Pete
- -----Original Message-----
From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
WBCCI 5303
From: "Barbara Gallegos" <bgallegos1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> We just moved our 75 Ambassador from a trailer park where we were hooked
up
> for over 10 yrs. We had never filled our fresh water tank until last
week.
> We turned the water pump on and didn't get water. The pump is running and
> sounds good, but not having access to manuals, we're stumped. Is there a
> valve to turn on to get the water into the unit? What steps do we need to
> take to check out the water pump? We will have water service to the
> property in 2-3 weeks (hopefully) and once that happens, we'd like to
empty
> the fresh water tank. Is there a release valve to empty it?
Also, the transformer has always had a loud buzzing. What's causing it and
> can it be fixed?
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:45:41 -0600
From: "Stan Truitt" <stan.truitt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
First thing you should do is tell us
> what model it is. International is not a model. Could be anywhere from a
> Bambi 16' to a Sovereign 30'.
>
> Have fun,
>
> GQ '67 Safari
> 4082 in CA
hey gq
your reply to joe and cathy about the "international" brings up a question
from me. what did the international signify and mean in the different
models?
harry
66 safari
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
>
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 11:41:33 -0700
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
> hey gq
> your reply to joe and cathy about the "international" brings up a question
> from me. what did the international signify and mean in the different
> models?
>
> harry
> 66 safari
Hey Harry:
The answer to that may vary depending on the year. It is a package of
goodies that come with the top of the line or International Land Yacht
series (as opposed to the lowly plain Land Yacht series like I have). In
the era that yours and mine are, the best way to know is to download the '68
brochure that Nick Novia donated to the VAC website archive. It's a real
treasure. Takes a while to download (Acrobat file) but well worth it.
Among the nifty stuff is the Standard Specifications page which is is
crammed with fine print about the features of the trailers including what is
included with the International Land Yacht series.
Also it puts to rest some issues such as:
The tankage material (polyethylene)
The bathroom fixture material (fiberglass)
etc...etc...
Would be great if there were brochures like this for every year.
GQ '67 Safari
4082 in CA
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 12:41:42 -0600
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Shower door replacement?
Cheyanne,
That door was made by a company named Tubmaster. You can contact them at
(407)898-2881. They may have a suggestion or two for you.
Charlie
Cheyanne & Randy wrote:
> Does anyone know where I can get a replacement shower door for my 1977
> Overlander? It is a sliding door and one of the sections is broken.
> Could I just replace that section or do I need a whole new door? thnks
> for your help.
> Cheyanne
>
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 13:04:50 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] International? and other information
The best I can tell, "International" refers to a trim package or options
package. Probably has to do with water filter and pressure regulator,
wood finish, floor covering, curtain material, and fabrics on the
cushions.
I do find reference in my '68 owner's manual to clarify this question.
In the "international" control panel: there are switches for panel light
and night light. There is a clock and a battery condition tester and
ammeter with a car battery low automatic cut-out (page 41 of the 1968
owner's manual. Then on page 42 it tells about the holding tank level
indicator, the TV antenna, the cigarette lighter and 12 volt connection,
all standard on the "international" model.
On page 50 it talks about the water purifier, standard on international
models. The way it reads, the pressure regulator was standard on all
Airstreams.
So it appears the "Land Yacht" is the basic model, International
fancier. And I still suspect the International model had fancier
woodwork, finishes, and fabrics. At least these are some identifiable
differences.
And for reference, length is measured from rear bumper all the way to
the hitch. For several different lengths there were different model
names for different floor plans.
While I'm mining the owner's manual, it says that the interior wall
finish is vinyl, best washed with Tide and a bit of Clorox. The
interior woodwork is lacquered. The floor tile was vinyl-asbestos.
The window gaskets are neoprene rubber and are preserved with a product
called "slipicone."
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:18:01 -0400
From: Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Re: [VAL zolotone
Hi all ,
to anyone refinishing the interior of <65 airstreams with zolotone -
youre gonna want about twice what the can says for square foot coverage - I
just came out 2 qts short - 2 gallons to do my flying cloud would have been
about right . Oh well - will have plenty on there when I give her a nother
coat .
Stuff has some stinking power too ... a resperator with outside air would
have been nice . Even with the windows open , a regular resperator was only
so good , got smoky in there . Sticks good tho - the overspray was barely
touched by lacquer thinner when I cleaned up . I only wish I could have
finished without running out - then I`d be flooring tommorow instead of
waiting for ups truck with more zolotone !
Chris 63 cloud
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 16:36:54 -0700
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] International? and other information
> The best I can tell, "International" refers to a trim package or options
> package. Probably has to do with water filter and pressure regulator,
> wood finish, floor covering, curtain material, and fabrics on the
> cushions.
My 59 Ambassador International has a battery box just outside and below the
front window, 110 v & 12v lamps in all of the fixtures, 12v dc/18v ac
ceiling fan, an Ogden water purifier, wall pads next to the twin beds, a 14
X 26 Astradome in the living room area, TV antenna and a compressor for the
water system. I think these were all "extras" above and beyond the Land
Yacht package. It also has approx. 6" dia aluminum "International" emblems
on each side of the front of the body and one in the back.
Colin
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 19:02:33 -0400
From: Jake Campbell <jakeman2@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] introduce myself and my baby
HI Cathy : Boy that was some story , I was sitting here reading it ,and
thought man this could be a great movie of the week (FROM DEATH CAPSULE
TO DREAM ) lol welcome to the list , and happy streaming . Jake
Cathy Townley-McGaughey wrote:
>Hullo, everybody.
>Would like to introduce ourselves. Joe and Cathy McGaughey. Bought our '62
>International at the turn of the century, has been in storage and just now
>am able to start working on it. Can everyone stand another 'how we found
>our little jewel' story?
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:53:42 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Mystery plate?
All,
There's a mystery plate above the hanging locker in my 1969 Caravel.
It's on the streetside inner vinyl-clad skin a bit above the storage shelf.
It's 5' 6" off the floor and 6" aft of the forward bulkhead that separates
the locker from the galley. The vinyl-clad plate itself is 1 1/2" high and
2 1/4" wide.
As if to make sure no one misses it, there's a 6" arrow drawn directly
below it in pencil pointing straight up at it. The arrow is about chest
high in the lower hanging locker.
Does anyone have a guess as to what's under that plate and what purpose
the contents (wires, 12v. or 110v. possibly), has?
The screen saga drags on. The smallest spline I could find is still too
small to fit, even by itself, much less with the screen too, into the 1/8"
slot. I'll go on another spline search at the other screen shop in town
tomorrow.
Thanks,
Glyn Judson
1969 Caravel, #508
Santa Monica CA
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 16:35:54 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Mystery plate?
All,
>>snip The smallest spline I could find is still too small to fit.
That should have read too LARGE. to fit.
Sorry,
Glyn
> From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 15:53:42 -0700
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Mystery plate?
>
> All,
>
> There's a mystery plate above the hanging locker in my 1969 Caravel.
> It's on the streetside inner vinyl-clad skin a bit above the storage shelf.
> It's 5' 6" off the floor and 6" aft of the forward bulkhead that separates
> the locker from the galley. The vinyl-clad plate itself is 1 1/2" high and
> 2 1/4" wide.
>
> As if to make sure no one misses it, there's a 6" arrow drawn directly
> below it in pencil pointing straight up at it. The arrow is about chest
> high in the lower hanging locker.
>
> Does anyone have a guess as to what's under that plate and what purpose
> the contents (wires, 12v. or 110v. possibly), has?
>
> The screen saga drags on. The smallest spline I could find is still too
> small to fit, even by itself, much less with the screen too, into the 1/8"
> slot. I'll go on another spline search at the other screen shop in town
> tomorrow.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glyn Judson
> 1969 Caravel, #508
> Santa Monica CA
>
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 19:45:21 -0400
From: "Jim Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
Pete, I have the same city water fill arrangement on my ' 68 Tradewind. I
have been told that the feature was discontinued because there were too
many warranty repairs caused by inexperienced owners overfilling the fresh
water tank with high pressure city water and rupturing the fresh water tank.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
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From: "Peter Ryner" <pryner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
> My '68 has a faucte type valve and a loop which allows me to fill the tank
> from the city water supply. If you forget to close the valve the pump
will
> run all day and not move an ounce of water. The valve is on the drivers
> side just forward of the water pump. Mine is underneath the couch so it
is
> a little difficult to get to. It also has the outside filler. There is
> also a valve to open the tank drain just forward of the filler valve. I
> think they are original as the system is shown in the owner's manual water
> schematic. Feel free to contact me off line and I'll make a jpg of the
> schematic.
> When you talk of the transformer are you talking about the UNIVOLT? If
so,
> the only way I know to get rid of the loud buzzing is to replace it with a
> new converter. There are several good ones on the market. Some also have
> charge wizzard avilable to plug into the intellipower which tends the
> battery. Very good option.
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>
> WBCCI 5303
>
> From: "Barbara Gallegos" <bgallegos1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > We just moved our 75 Ambassador from a trailer park where we were hooked
> up
> > for over 10 yrs. We had never filled our fresh water tank until last
> week.
> > We turned the water pump on and didn't get water. The pump is running
and
> > sounds good, but not having access to manuals, we're stumped. Is there
a
> > valve to turn on to get the water into the unit? What steps do we need
to
> > take to check out the water pump? We will have water service to the
> > property in 2-3 weeks (hopefully) and once that happens, we'd like to
> empty
> > the fresh water tank. Is there a release valve to empty it?
> Also, the transformer has always had a loud buzzing. What's causing it
and
> > can it be fixed?
>
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 20:20:49 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Mystery plate?
could it be where the awning is attached so you can find it to undo it ?
Daisy
Glyn Judson wrote:
> All,
>
> There's a mystery plate above the hanging locker in my 1969 Caravel.
> It's on the streetside inner vinyl-clad skin a bit above the storage shelf.
> It's 5' 6" off the floor and 6" aft of the forward bulkhead that separates
> the locker from the galley. The vinyl-clad plate itself is 1 1/2" high and
> 2 1/4" wide.
>
> As if to make sure no one misses it, there's a 6" arrow drawn directly
> below it in pencil pointing straight up at it. The arrow is about chest
> high in the lower hanging locker.
>
> Does anyone have a guess as to what's under that plate and what purpose
> the contents (wires, 12v. or 110v. possibly), has?
>
> The screen saga drags on. The smallest spline I could find is still too
> small to fit, even by itself, much less with the screen too, into the 1/8"
> slot. I'll go on another spline search at the other screen shop in town
> tomorrow.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glyn Judson
> 1969 Caravel, #508
> Santa Monica CA
>
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:34:34 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Mystery plate?
Daisy,
Good idea but for the fact that there's nothing on the corresponding
outside location. I do have the old brackets still in place for a front
awning and a non Zip Dee curbside awning though.
Glyn
> From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 20:20:49 -0400
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Mystery plate?
>
> could it be where the awning is attached so you can find it to undo it ?
>
> Daisy
>
> Glyn Judson wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> There's a mystery plate above the hanging locker in my 1969 Caravel.
>> It's on the streetside inner vinyl-clad skin a bit above the storage shelf.
>> It's 5' 6" off the floor and 6" aft of the forward bulkhead that separates
>> the locker from the galley. The vinyl-clad plate itself is 1 1/2" high and
>> 2 1/4" wide.
>>
>> As if to make sure no one misses it, there's a 6" arrow drawn directly
>> below it in pencil pointing straight up at it. The arrow is about chest
>> high in the lower hanging locker.
>>
>> Does anyone have a guess as to what's under that plate and what purpose
>> the contents (wires, 12v. or 110v. possibly), has?
>>
>> The screen saga drags on. The smallest spline I could find is still too
>> small to fit, even by itself, much less with the screen too, into the 1/8"
>> slot. I'll go on another spline search at the other screen shop in town
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Glyn Judson
>> 1969 Caravel, #508
>> Santa Monica CA
>>
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 17:51:37 -0700
From: Joel Raymond <pi2@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: [VAL zolotone
On 4/8/04 13:18, "Chris Elliott" <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
> Hi all ,
> to anyone refinishing the interior of <65 airstreams with zolotone -
> youre gonna want about twice what the can says for square foot coverage - I
> just came out 2 qts short - 2 gallons to do my flying cloud would have been
> about right . Oh well - will have plenty on there when I give her a nother
> coat .
> Stuff has some stinking power too ... a resperator with outside air would
> have been nice . Even with the windows open , a regular resperator was only
> so good , got smoky in there . Sticks good tho - the overspray was barely
> touched by lacquer thinner when I cleaned up . I only wish I could have
> finished without running out - then I`d be flooring tommorow instead of
> waiting for ups truck with more zolotone !
> Chris 63 cloud
>
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Hi Chris
I just purchased a 65 Caravel that will need to be painted inside. I also
plan to spay it; how much paint did you use, one or two coats? Its not
clear if you bought 1 gallon and then ordered a second. The Caravel is a
little smaller than the cloud. Another point: did you have all of the
cabinets and beds out or did you mask around? I plan to have everything out
when I spray, then replace everything inside with new cabinets...another one
of my hobbies.
Best regards, Joel
- --
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 18:55:11 -0600
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: Window/Screen Question
Nice work RJ. GAS
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To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:14 AM
Subject: [VAL] RE: Window/Screen Question
> It's plain old "single strength glass" (3/32").
> Here's how I replaced all the screens on our '56
>
> http://vintageairstream.com/floyd/restoration/windows.html
>
>
> and some background window info:
> http://vintageairstream.com/FAQ/FAQ_8.html
>
> Best of luck,
> RJ
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 21:37:08 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL]Renovated unit/storing
Thanks Lexxy, what a great job you did, she's gorgeous. Have a great
time on the seas. Tahiti. wow, Can I come ? Experienced gormet sea cook.
how about if I get a barge for the AS and you can tow it ?
I don't know about storing, mine just hangs out in the bushes. As long
as it doesn't leak, it should be fine. You'll need new tires in 5 years
anyway.
Daisy
Alexis Evans wrote:
> We are finishing our unit finally. I posted photos at
> http://www.airstreamphotos.com/photos/showgallery.php/cat/500/ppuser/642
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 20:18:43 -0500
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Screen spline?
Check your local hardware stores. They may not sell the spline in all
sizes out front but often fix screens and have a super collection of
splines in the workroom. My local hardware store charges only $3 per
screen for labor. Can't chase materials for that price.
The smallest spline in McMaster-Carr is 1/8". Its ribbed to shrink a
bit. 1087A21, their catalog number, a whole $1.42 per 25 feet.
www.mcmaster.com. Shipping probably about $3.50. (562)695-5911 for Los
Angeles office.
Gerald J.
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 22:25:32 -0400
From: Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: [VAL zolotone
Joel ,
I think 1 gal. would do for a caravel , particularly if you were to add 1.5 oz.
water per qt. as it says on the tech info on zolotoneaim . website . At least on
the first coat . The can says do not thin - doesnt mention using water . The
website says if neccesary use it - course I didnt find that out first . HVLP might
make less mist and overspray - but I just have a regular gun .
To spray with conventional equipment , use 55 - 60 psi to cover 1st coat then
back of pressure to 15 psi and get back 2 ft and spatter for 2nd coat .
I did not thin as the can said , and did not get good coverage on the first
coat . I think maybe an epoxy primer might have helped , as its kind of creamy
colored and closer to the cameo white I used . My old finish was kind of yucky
biege and much darker than the cameo white .
Its really tough stuff , the overspray comes of hard , even with thinner . I
am glad I used it , just wish I didnt have to get more . I have seen many roller
latex and oil jobs peel right off so I wasnt going to use that even tho it would
be lots less $ .
I had all the cabinets out - will be redoing them as well , at least some
bulkheads . It would be lots of masking otherwise , and I dont think you could
keep overspray off every little thing .
Chris
Joel Raymond wrote:
> On 4/8/04 13:18, "Chris Elliott" <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all ,
> > to anyone refinishing the interior of <65 airstreams with zolotone -
> > youre gonna want about twice what the can says for square foot coverage - I
> > just came out 2 qts short - 2 gallons to do my flying cloud would have been
> > about right . Oh well - will have plenty on there when I give her a nother
> > coat .
> > Stuff has some stinking power too ... a resperator with outside air would
> > have been nice . Even with the windows open , a regular resperator was only
> > so good , got smoky in there . Sticks good tho - the overspray was barely
> > touched by lacquer thinner when I cleaned up . I only wish I could have
> > finished without running out - then I`d be flooring tommorow instead of
> > waiting for ups truck with more zolotone !
> > Chris 63 cloud
> >
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> >
> Hi Chris
> I just purchased a 65 Caravel that will need to be painted inside. I also
> plan to spay it; how much paint did you use, one or two coats? Its not
> clear if you bought 1 gallon and then ordered a second. The Caravel is a
> little smaller than the cloud. Another point: did you have all of the
> cabinets and beds out or did you mask around? I plan to have everything out
> when I spray, then replace everything inside with new cabinets...another one
> of my hobbies.
> Best regards, Joel
> --
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 21:42:55 -0400
From: "eemerick" <eemerick@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
Hello,
I can open a valve on my 68 and fill the freshwater holding tank while I
am hooked up to city water. But if I am hooked to city water the pump
will not work and draw from the holding tank. There is not a valve that
shuts the water off from the holding tank but there is a drain between
the tank and pump that has to be closed as well.
Not much help but just a comment!
Ed
WBCCI/VAC 4425
68 Sovereign ( hooked and ready to go for our annual Easter Weekend trip
to Door County WI)
59 Traveler ( can't fill from city water hook up)
- -----Original Message-----
From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:05 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
In order to pump water "from" the tank you must first put water "into"
the tank. I am not aware of anything that would allow you to be hooked
up to a city water supply and be able to fill the fresh water tank from
inside the trailer.
I believe you will have to use a water hose and from outside the
trailer, open the fill cap "to" the fresh water tank and then begin
filling up the tank that way. I am not aware of any in-line valves for
you to switch this way or that way to fill your tank up.
Find the fill cap on the trailer exterior, open the cap, put the hose
into the filler neck and begin to fill the fresh water holding tank. Do
not reconnect to the city water supply if you want to use the fresh
water holding tank. Once the tank has some water in it you can go
inside the trailer and open a faucet; you should be hearing the water
pump running then. And hopefully you will not have any leaks in any
lines from the fresh water holding tank to all the faucets and toilet.
There are valves underneath the trailers to empty the fresh water
holding tanks - these valves may even be in the "trunk" area at the rear
of the trailer, I'm not personally familiar with your model. But ALL
these trailers have valves, usually household outside spigot valves that
open and close the same was as a spigot on the side of a house. Look
for them, you will find them I am sure.
Tom
WBCCI 5303
From: "Barbara Gallegos" <bgallegos1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> We just moved our 75 Ambassador from a trailer park where we were
> hooked
up
> for over 10 yrs. We had never filled our fresh water tank until last
week.
> We turned the water pump on and didn't get water. The pump is running
> and sounds good, but not having access to manuals, we're stumped. Is
> there a valve to turn on to get the water into the unit? What steps
> do we need to take to check out the water pump? We will have water
> service to the property in 2-3 weeks (hopefully) and once that
> happens, we'd like to
empty
> the fresh water tank. Is there a release valve to empty it?
Also, the transformer has always had a loud buzzing. What's causing it
and
> can it be fixed?
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Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 22:33:34 -0400
From: Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] bronze dump valve
Anyone have any thoughts about replacing or rebuilding older valve body so
that the sink and bath drains will exit under the slide as it does in the
bronze casting . One comes from one side - one from the other. Sort of tee
shaped unlike any modern plastic fitting I have seen . I want to replace
with a modern waste valve that I can get parts for when it goes . Or
rebuild the old but parts are unobtainium .
some one must have done something restoring this nasty but neccesary item
.
Chris 63 cloud
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 23:55:20 -0400
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <joytbrew@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Fresh Water Tank
Hi list,
I'm going to butt in here and make a few statements. Right after the shore
water enters the trailer, there are likely two valves that might be
recognized. One is a pressure valve and the other is a backflow valve.
These may be combined into one valve. Up front with the potable water tank
is a backflow valve. The back flow valves work on pressure, not a manual
handle.
These valves can be damaged or inoperative. Especially if the potable water
tank were not used for many years. My '69 Safari had an ungodly number of
valves up front to dump the potable water tank and water lines. Same thing
in the rear. If you are dealing with lots of valves, label them as you find
out what they control.
Potable water should flow through the pump, through a backflow preventer,
and then into the water system. The backflow at the shore line prevents
water from exiting the fitting. With the shoreline connected and the pump
off, the water enters the system and is prevented from flowing back through
the pump and into the potable water tank by the other back flow valve.
A simple system and effective. It would be a disaster if you could fill the
potable water tank from the shore connection unless the plumbing system were
modified with manual shut offs.
If you attempt to pump water from the potable tank and the pump drain or
tank drain lines are open, there wouldn't be enough pressure to open the
backflow valve. Also, if the pump isn't really putting out pressurized
water, there might not be enough pressure to open the valve. Be sure the
pump is really working at specification. The pump could run great, but
flapper valves or ball valves might not be operative - sort of sucking wind.
Most likely, you need a new pump.
Hope this helps,
'69 Safari, Joy
>
> From: "Barbara Gallegos" <bgallegos1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > We just moved our 75 Ambassador from a trailer park where we were
> > hooked
> up
> > for over 10 yrs. We had never filled our fresh water tank until last
> week.
> > We turned the water pump on and didn't get water. The pump is running
>
> > and sounds good, but not having access to manuals, we're stumped. Is
> > there a valve to turn on to get the water into the unit? What steps
> > do we need to take to check out the water pump? We will have water
> > service to the property in 2-3 weeks (hopefully) and once that
> > happens, we'd like to
> empty
> > the fresh water tank. Is there a release valve to empty it?
> Also, the transformer has always had a loud buzzing. What's causing it
> and
> > can it be fixed?
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 21:10:09 -0700
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Screen spline?
Gerald,
Thanks for the Mc Master-Carr lead. That said, I just measured the
stuff and it's already 1/8". I'll take a sample of it to a local screen
shop and throw myself on their mercy.
Thanks again,
Glyn
> From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Organization: Gerald N. Johnson
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2004 20:18:43 -0500
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Screen spline?
>
> Check your local hardware stores. They may not sell the spline in all
> sizes out front but often fix screens and have a super collection of
> splines in the workroom. My local hardware store charges only $3 per
> screen for labor. Can't chase materials for that price.
>
> The smallest spline in McMaster-Carr is 1/8". Its ribbed to shrink a
> bit. 1087A21, their catalog number, a whole $1.42 per 25 feet.
> www.mcmaster.com. Shipping probably about $3.50. (562)695-5911 for Los
> Angeles office.
>
> Gerald J.
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Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 01:36:07 -0400
From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] PestPatrol reviewed by PC Magazine
Run this program to look for SPYs lurking on your computer including Trojans -
you will be surprised what you find! These Trojan programs are capable of
getting information out of your computer and you wouldn't even know it when it
was happening.
Tom
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,4149,9861,00.asp
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