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VAL Digest            Sunday, April 4 2004            Volume 01 : Number 208




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] Pricing an Argosy
Re: [VAL] 1971 23' Safari for sale
Re: [VAL] 1971 23' Safari for sale
Re: [VAL] Pricing an Argosy
RE:  [VAL] Argosy
Re: [VAL] Spare Tire Mounting Hardware
[VAL] replacing 30" window
[VAL] Florida County Park - peak season
[VAL] Argosy link

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Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 22:25:16 -0800
From: "Richard        McFarland" <estatewagons@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: [VAL] Pricing an Argosy

> Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2004 23:23:36 -0500
> From: Jake Campbell <jakeman2@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Argosy
>
>  I own A 1976  24'-28' Argosy , ,
    I would appreciate some info on what a reasonable
>   price would be .  Thanks Jake
>
>---------------------------------

Jake - you need to describe your trailer a little bit - specific length and
layout etc.

If you have not looked at one of the Argosy sites - you might check there -
as there are a number of models - 24 - 26 - 28 etc...

 http://www.argosytrailer.com/argosy_009.htm

RL

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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 01:04:30 -0600
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <chasm@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1971 23' Safari for sale

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 13:44:45 EST, FRYDMANS@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:

>
>That leaves me with a 1971 23' Safari that I no longer need. It is in great 
>shape with no outside damage, all glass intact and everything in working order 
>except for the refrig that will not stay cold. Center twin configuration with 
>original upholstery that is getting a little thin. A great vintage Airstream 

I would love to buy this but cannot figure out how to get up to WI for a few
months yet.  

hmmmm
chas



...

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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 07:38:56 -0500
From: Brian <brian@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1971 23' Safari for sale

I have a 1973 Safari. It is a great size, but no gray water holding tank is
a minus. Good luck!


             Brian in Richmond

                  1973 Safari


At 01:04 AM 4/3/2004 -0600, you wrote:
>On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 13:44:45 EST, FRYDMANS@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>
>>
>>That leaves me with a 1971 23' Safari that I no longer need. It is in great 
>>shape with no outside damage, all glass intact and everything in working
order 
>>except for the refrig that will not stay cold. Center twin configuration
with 
>>original upholstery that is getting a little thin. A great vintage
Airstream 

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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 09:35:04 -0500
From: Jake Campbell <jakeman2@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Pricing an Argosy

Jake - you need to describe your trailer a little bit - specific length and layout etc.


Hi Richard :  
It's  a 1976 24' Air stream  Argosy , It's in very good condition , all 
orig. except for the fridge . I have all the orig. paper work  that came 
with it new  also have the adjustable hitch load levelers and sway bar . 
I put new tires,  wheel bearing's and grease seals 2 yrs ago.  
air-conditioning. and furnace works , even still has the orig.  8 track 
am fm player in it . It has 2 twin bed's in the rear, center bath , and 
a pull out double in the front .It also has the Zip DEE awning . it 
needs a few small things like curtain clips (which we have ), the cover 
on the front sofa is a bit thin , all the tanks are tight , and the 
water pump works, also I replaced the plumbing in the rear as it looked 
a bit  ratty to me  ., but is ready to go .    Thanks Jake 

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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 09:04:15 -0600
From: Kevin D Allen <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE:  [VAL] Argosy

Greetings Jake!
 
Welcome to the List!
 
<<Quote>>
HI : I just signed on the list. My name is Jake Campbell ,and I live in 
Brantford ,Ontario have 1 wife(so far),2 kids,and 2 dogs . I own A 1976 
24'-28' Argosy ,and have had it about 5 yrs now I pull it with a1997 
Ford F350 with a 7.3 power stroke.  I am interested in trading up to a 
little newer model  , but have no idea what my rig is worth( it's in 
very good condition) , I would appreciate some info on what a reasonable

price would be .  Thanks Jake
<<Quote>>
 
One resource that might help in establishing an asking price for your
Argosy can be found at:
 
http://www.vintageairstream.com/rr_topics_pricevscondition.html
 
The above link will take you to a page that discusses evaluating and
establishing values for Vintage Airstream products.  While Argosys have
historically commanded lower prices, the differential between Airstreams
and Argosys of similar Vintage, Size, and Condition have been decreasing
recently - - especially for some of the more unique Argosys such as the
Minuet series and to a lesser extend the standard Argosy coaches with
the rear-door floorplans.
 
Good luck with your search for a later model coach!
 
Kevin
 
 
Kevin D. Allen
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.10
Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet
1975 Cadillac Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)
WBCCI/VAC/Free Wheelers #6359

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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 10:13:04 -0800
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Spare Tire Mounting Hardware

> Folks:
>
> I'd like to mount a spare tire behind the tanks on my '68.  If anyone has
> this set up I'd appreciate see a couple pictures so that I can fabricate a
> like set up.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Pfeffer

Hi David:

I carry my spare behind the propane tanks.  I didn't fabricate anything.
The tire rides on the equalizer hitch chain pull-up brackets.  I placed an
eye bolt through one of the lug holes in the rim facing backwards and clip
two dog-type chains to it, connecting the other ends to places on the
pull-up brackets to prevent the tire from getting away.  I cover the tire
with one of those spare tire covers that are available anywhere (mine is
black).  Finally, I placed 2 bungee cords from behind where the chains are,
around the sides of the tire/cover, and hook them to the gas bottle handle
holes on either side. This keeps the tire pressed up agains the tanks to
prevent contact with the front sheet metal of the trailer.  It has worked
very well for a number of years now and I think it looks pretty good.

In '67 the tanks were mounted sufficiently forward and on top of the A-frame
to do this.  A '68 I looked at had the tanks further back and mounted down
between the A-frame channels so there wan't room to allow it.  The A-frame
was also different from mine in that it was spread out and could accomodate
the bottles. Yours like this?  If so, my method wouldn't work without some
hefty modifications.

I'll send you a photo of mine.

GQ '67 Safari
4082 in CA

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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 13:53:02 -0600
From: Chris Koehn <timberguides@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] replacing 30" window

I have a question for y'all-

Our new to us 1979 31' Int'l has a 30" X 30" window just fore of the 
door. It has major league seal failure, with water standing in the 
bottom 1" + between the glass, and much fogginess throughout. I also 
have been chasing a leak in that corner.

Today I removed the interior aluminum trim that was riveted to the 
frame. I also drilled out a few rivets holding on the interior skin 
around the window. There was moisture along one side of the frame, 
wetting a stud and the surrounding insulation. There was also much 
evidence this window had been replaced at some time. Lots of broken 
glass and rivet heads behind the interior skin. Also holes coming 
through the frame from the outside, presumably from previous rivets 
holding in the window before glass replacement.

This has led me to inspect the new rivets. I suspect they are the cause 
of my leak. Heads are not well seated against the frame. I've caulked 
literally everything else- glass, frame, everything above on the roof, 
etc. I suspect poor replacement technique may be causing my leaks as 
well as the seal failure. So I have do make some decisions:

1. Should I drill out the old rivets, replace them, re-seal and install 
new rivets; and take the usual path with the seal failure-  carefully 
break out the interior pane, or-
2. While I have all the rivets drilled out, just pull the entire window 
and replace it?

Where can I order such a piece of glass (it's curved), and how much 
should I expect to pay? Replacement would be my preference, provided 
it's a (more or less) permanent fix and won't require another mortgage.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice!

Chris Koehn
WI

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Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2004 15:38:20 -0500
From: Terry Tyler <tylerbears@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Florida County Park - peak season

Hi Guys,

Here's a short reminder if you've had difficulty locating a campsite 
during peak season in South Florida (north of West Palm Beach). We have 
stopped at the Phipps County Park four times this winter and they've 
ALWAYS had campsites available.

Directions: From Stuart, go west on US 76, cross under I-95, cross over 
the Florida Turnpike, take the second right (north) on SW Locks Road to 
the county park sign on the right. It's a short dirt road to the gated 
entrance. Pick one of the 48 campsites, unhook, set up and pay the 
Ranger when his office opens. Simple and straightforward.

Not only are the campsites good size (1/4 acre in many cases), but the 
county keeps the place looking good. The park ranger told me he likes 
working here because only RVers independent enough to camp without 
electricity like the park. During an earlier visit here, we watched a 
50 unit Airstream caravan arrive and park in one of the center fields.

Cost is $10 with water, dump station, bathrooms and a bird's eye view 
of every yacht traveling the intracoastal waterway - right from our 
campsite. Nearby (1/4 mile) is the St. Lucie Lock with a ringside seat 
for watching lock traffic.

At the Corps of Engineers Lock, there are eight RV sites, a dozen boat 
slips (with hookups) and three walk-in tent sites. Reservations for the 
RV sites are a necessity there. Tenters can usually get a site any time.

This spot may be worth noting in your PDA,

Terry

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Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2004 19:35:53 -0500
From: Jake Campbell <jakeman2@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Argosy link

Kevin D Allen wrote:

> 
>One resource that might help in establishing an asking price for your
>Argosy can be found at:
> 
>http://www.vintageairstream.com/rr_topics_pricevscondition.html
> 
>Hi Kevin : Thank you for the welcome,and also the link I will check it out. Jake

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