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VAL Digest           Tuesday, March 9 2004           Volume 01 : Number 182




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #181
[VAL] Re: flooring
[VAL] Re:rock gaurds
Re: [VAL] Re:battery placement
Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?
[VAL] Airstream Storage in CA
Re: [VAL] Inland RV
Re: [VAL] Inland RV
Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?
Re: [VAL] best hitch for a 18 ft 1969 Caravel
[VAL] 1969 Curtain track needed
Re: [VAL] 1969 Curtain track needed
[VAL] 72 Globetrotter
Re: [VAL] 72 Globetrotter
Re: [VAL] best hitch for a 18 ft 1969 Caravel
Re: [VAL] 72 Globetrotter
Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #179 - Three dog night?
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #179 - Adding batteries

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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 08:09:26 EST
From: fruitbat54@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #181

Subject: Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics
When I was considering a phone connection, I located some marine stainless 
steel recepticles on the web that are low-profile and completely weatherproof.  
A bit pricey, but a pretty slick solution.  I finally decided that I didn't 
want to put any more holes in the skin, so I ended up threading the phone wire 
through the window operator slots.  Works fine and doesn't cost anything.

Lincoln Soule
'77 Tradewind

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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 09:47:16 EST
From: AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: flooring

In a message dated 3/7/2004 11:02:02 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
I have a '77 Sovereign that has pile wall to wall carpet in it. It needs 
replacing and I was wondering if anyone knows what the factory put in 
originally? I'm also wondering about Berber, Lino, or even Pergo? Any 
thoughts gang??
I've had TWO late seventy's units and they both had ORANGE cut pile carpet 
from new.
You can tell the origonality of it from places like in the closets where they 
usually leave what's there in the first place!
I've noticed that New units are coming out with pergo installed from the 
factory!
I'm thinking ~ Pergo for my 78 Arg. 30
My 65 has asfalt tile under the HORRIBLE rubber backed carpet. I'm restoring 
the tile as we speak!

Alan T
Phx AZ
65 tradewind
78 Arg. 30

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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 09:54:45 EST
From: AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re:rock gaurds

In a message dated 3/7/2004 11:02:02 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
what does he make them out of??  price seems a little low for SS but about 
right
for a synthetic of some sort.
thanks
chas
The 150 price is aluminum to match the AS....he also does SS for more.
click ebay itemhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2227902723  
to vew his last auction.

AlanT

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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:00:41 -0600
From: "Dean L." <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re:battery placement

You may consider putting your Generator in your truck bed and run a
heavy 150 ft cord to get away from the noise and smell.
It will not be any stronger than others passing by on the road.

See You On The Road
Dean L.
WBCCI 2486



On Mar 5, 2004, at 4:25 PM, Dan Childress wrote:

> Sorry, I cannot use a generator. Gas and exhaust fumes make life 
> unbearable.
> I have found that electric blankets can be used for additional heat 
> while
> sleeping.
> I understand that the Air Conditioner use is not practical with battery
> power.
> Dan
>
>> You can't heat or cool with a battery.
>> You could only run your microwave for a short time with batteries.
>> The only thing you could do is get a 4 kw generator.

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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 10:34:10 -0600
From: "Dean L." <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?

Why not mount the RJ-11 jack on the Inside of the Ref outside service 
door.
I did that and it works well to just open and plug in..  I also keep 
the 25 ft
cord coiled up inside that door also..
BTW.. All Jacks then are the same as in your house.... Cheeper !!!

See You On The Road
Dean L.
WBCCI 2486



On Mar 6, 2004, at 7:31 PM, Rob Super wrote:

> As part of reworking our '73 Safari I want to install telephone 
> wiring, and it should include an interface on the exterior skin in 
> order to connect to whatever is provided by RV parks. Having never yet 
> used a site that provided phone service my question is: what kind of 
> connection (plug or socket) do parks typically supply and what should 
> I install to connect to them?  A bit of searching turns up the fact 
> that there are "RV telephone inlet" receptacles that look rather like 
> standard 120v. plugs and sockets. (But with a third pin/hole, round, 
> dead center.) These are quite different from the garden-variety 
> modular phone plugs/jacks that I had expected. So: would you install:
>
> 	Standard modular (and: male or female?), or
>
> 	"RV" style (and: male or female?), or
>
> 	both?
>
> If the answer involves one of the "RV" fittings--either on the trailer 
> or at the park's pedestal--then what kind of adapter (again including 
> the gender issue) is standard?\

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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 10:42:15 -0800
From: Ivan <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: [VAL] Airstream Storage in CA

Hi All,

        I'm now located in CA and I find that I have to store our trusty '55
cruiser.  Anyone know of a good storage facility in northern CA that would
be kind to our aluminum friend?  I don't mind driving a few hours out of my
way (I'm currently in the Napa Valley)...

Thanks!

- -Ivan

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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 13:45:20 -0500
From: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Inland RV

I'm sure Andy still reads the VAL just to keep on top of what's going on.
Maybe with a few positive posts he will eventually join in on discussions
again.
If not at least he's got a 800 # and usually answers question over the phone.
Nice guy.

Bobby
  ----- Original Message -----
  Wrom: CRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZOWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXX


  Yes, the fact that Andy doesn't share his knowledge because he got slammed
  by some is our LOSS.  No one should have to put up with being slammed
  whether anyone agrees with their opinion or not.  I miss the guy.

  Tom
  >
  >
  >   On Inland, like it or not there is a ton of stuff that you can only get
  >   there, Andy is the only person who has stepped up to the plate and
  >   continues to make and stock hard to find parts.
  >   I dunno about his service, he sures knows these trailers.
  >>   Daisy

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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 15:32:02 -0500
From: <Balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Inland RV

Andy,

If your out there. Hey!

Paul Waddell
WBCCI/VAC/WDCU 1270
1966 Overlander
Front Royal, Va.


- ----- Original Message -----
From: <gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Inland RV


> I'm sure Andy still reads the VAL just to keep on top of what's going on.
> Maybe with a few positive posts he will eventually join in on discussions
> again.
> If not at least he's got a 800 # and usually answers question over the
phone.
> Nice guy.
>
> Bobby
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   Wrom: CRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZOWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXX
>
>
>   Yes, the fact that Andy doesn't share his knowledge because he got
slammed
>   by some is our LOSS.  No one should have to put up with being slammed
>   whether anyone agrees with their opinion or not.  I miss the guy.
>
>   Tom
>   >
>   >
>   >   On Inland, like it or not there is a ton of stuff that you can only
get
>   >   there, Andy is the only person who has stepped up to the plate and
>   >   continues to make and stock hard to find parts.
>   >   I dunno about his service, he sures knows these trailers.
>   >>   Daisy
>
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 18:50:07 -0500
From: Matt Worner <wornmatt@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?

And a very neat installation it is too, Tim.  Is that smurf tube 
(flexible non-metallic tubing) on the outside?

Matt (who gave up electrical work for my old age)

<snip>
> 
> You can see the pics of mine here.
> 
<snip>
> 
> -Tim
> http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
> eFax (508) 590-0302
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Super" <robsuper@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:31 PM
> Subject: [VAL] Phone connector basics?
> 
> 
> 
>>As part of reworking our '73 Safari I want to install telephone wiring,
>>and it should include an interface on the exterior skin in order to
>>connect to whatever is provided by RV parks. Having never yet used a
>>site that provided phone service my question is: what kind of
>>connection (plug or socket) do parks typically supply and what should I
>>install to connect to them?  A bit of searching turns up the fact that
>>there are "RV telephone inlet" receptacles that look rather like
>>standard 120v. plugs and sockets. (But with a third pin/hole, round,
>>dead center.) These are quite different from the garden-variety modular
>>phone plugs/jacks that I had expected. So: would you install:
>>
>>Standard modular (and: male or female?), or
>>
>>"RV" style (and: male or female?), or
>>
>>both?
>>
>>If the answer involves one of the "RV" fittings--either on the trailer
>>or at the park's pedestal--then what kind of adapter (again including
>>the gender issue) is standard?\
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Rob
>>
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 19:03:41 -0600
From: Daniel Childress <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] best hitch for a 18 ft 1969 Caravel

>>>My present hitch does not seem to match my 69 caravel.  It is a 
>>>reese with two 750 lbs bars.  Hitch says it is good for up to 
>>>10,000 lbs.  I believe that  the caravel is bouncing excessive in 
>>>the front.  Any suggestions?

Dan
14148

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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:11:38 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] 1969 Curtain track needed

    All,

    I'm having the dickens of a time locating the upper curtain track for
over the galley in my 1969 Caravel.  It's the 3" wide extruded aluminum type
that's 900's on one side and 450's on the other with the 1/4" wide track
running down the center.  The total length needed is almost 6 feet.

    Does anyone have an idea as to where I can get such a piece?  I have a
scanned drawing I made of it for anyone wanting to see the specific shape.

    Thanks,

    Glyn 

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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:46:49 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 1969 Curtain track needed

    All,

    That should have read 90 degrees and 45 degrees, which is what I typed.
The message I got appears to have changed it to 900's etc.

    Glyn

> From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 17:11:38 -0800
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] 1969 Curtain track needed
> 
> All,
> 
> I'm having the dickens of a time locating the upper curtain track for
> over the galley in my 1969 Caravel.  It's the 3" wide extruded aluminum type
> that's 900's on one side and 450's on the other with the 1/4" wide track
> running down the center.  The total length needed is almost 6 feet.
> 
> Does anyone have an idea as to where I can get such a piece?  I have a
> scanned drawing I made of it for anyone wanting to see the specific shape.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Glyn 
> 
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 18:34:59 -0800
From: "John Wilson" <katyree@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] 72 Globetrotter

Does anyone have a suggestion for a pulling vehicle for a '72 Globetrotter?
I guess you need to start with the trailer weight. Any suggestions where to 
find that information?
Would a Ford Explorer be an adequate vehicle? What smaller vehicles are 
recommended?
Thanks,
John Wilson

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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:03:30 -0500
From: <Balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 72 Globetrotter

That would most likely be one of the better ones. Not over kill, not under
powered.
Just like the "Three Bears"

Paul Waddell
WBCCI/VAC/WDCU 1270
66 Overlander


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Wilson" <katyree@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:34 PM
Subject: [VAL] 72 Globetrotter


> Does anyone have a suggestion for a pulling vehicle for a '72
Globetrotter?
> I guess you need to start with the trailer weight. Any suggestions where
to
> find that information?
> Would a Ford Explorer be an adequate vehicle? What smaller vehicles are
> recommended?
> Thanks,
> John Wilson
>
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 22:50:40 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] best hitch for a 18 ft 1969 Caravel

The easiest thing to do is take it to a horse trailer place, they'll fix 
you up. sounds like you need to adjust it better.

You can also look at their website ? Dunno what it is.

Daisy

Daniel Childress wrote:

>>>> My present hitch does not seem to match my 69 caravel.  It is a 
>>>> reese with two 750 lbs bars.  Hitch says it is good for up to 10,000 
>>>> lbs.  I believe that  the caravel is bouncing excessive in the 
>>>> front.  Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> Dan
> 14148
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Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2004 22:57:57 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] 72 Globetrotter

Smaller vehicules are not recommended. You need a long wheelbase and a 
lowish center of gravity. Even a globetrotter is heavy enough to whip a 
small SUV all over the road, when bad things happen.  Also, you need 
more muscle in the transmission and maybe a cooler.

There are folks who get away with this small towing. Never have wrecks 
(yet) never even have white knuckles (yet). And almost any car 
dealership will tell you fairy stories about how much their things can 
tow. For your own safety and the safety of those on the road with you, 
don't wimp out on your tow vehicule.

Daisy

John Wilson wrote:

> Does anyone have a suggestion for a pulling vehicle for a '72 Globetrotter?
> I guess you need to start with the trailer weight. Any suggestions where 
> to find that information?
> Would a Ford Explorer be an adequate vehicle? What smaller vehicles are 
> recommended?
> Thanks,
> John Wilson
> 
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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 20:23:29 -0800
From: "Tim Shephard" <timshephard@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?

Yep, that's what it is.  I then painted it ;-)..

- -Tim

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From: "Matt Worner" <wornmatt@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?


> And a very neat installation it is too, Tim.  Is that smurf tube 
> (flexible non-metallic tubing) on the outside?
> 
> Matt (who gave up electrical work for my old age)

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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:26:32 -0600
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #179 - Three dog night?

The wife suggests a small portable nuclear power plant. Clean, quiet
power, according to the Pop Mechanics-like mags back in the '60s.
One of our friends in Idaho suggests large dogs. One for a mild night,
two for chilly, three for a cold night. Don't know if you can take the
fumes though.
Our '52 40' Spartan had a wood stove where the original oil furnace had
been.
Al

> 
> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 07:58:34 -0600
> From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Re:battery placement
> 
> I am in the process of adding additional batteries to my 69 caravel. 
>  I have room on the tongue for two and would like to have two more.  Is
there a problem with having two in the back and two in the front??  I
understand that it would take a very heavy wire to connect them.
> Dan
> 
> ------------------------------

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Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 23:09:56 -0600
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #179 - Adding batteries

8 gage should be enough. The batteries in a travel trailer aren't used
for starting an engine. For that matter, modern vehicles use 6 gage
battery wires, even my van with 350 V8. My trailer has 8 gage from the
fusebox on the tongue up to the batteries and back 15 feet to the
converter-charger.
You can't heat, cool or cook with battery power anyway, at least with the
weight of batteries you are likely to have in your trailer, so the extra
batteries may not be of any practical benefit. For rustic campsites a
generator placed downwind may be the practical way to go.

"I have found that electric blankets can be used for additional heat
while sleeping."
I take it that these are 120VAC? An inverter would be required to run
them (and any other 120VAC things). Have you considered 12V bedwarmers?
They go under you on top of the mattress. Look at solar electric
suppliers like those who advertise in Backwoods Home Magazine. Turn the
bedwarmer on while you are awake, then off when you go to bed. I don't
like the idea of sleeping with an electric appliance like a blanket or
bedwarmer going. Especially after my electric blanket caught on fire in
the wee hours one night!
Al
> ------------------------------
> 
> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 07:58:34 -0600
> From: "Dan Childress" <daniel@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Re:battery placement
> 
> I am in the process of adding additional batteries to my 69 caravel. 
>  I have room on the tongue for two and would like to have two more.  Is
there a problem with having two in the back and two in the front??  I
understand that it would take a very heavy wire to connect them.
> Dan

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