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VAL Digest            Monday, March 8 2004            Volume 01 : Number 181




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] Vintage Trailer Resource
[VAL] Floor Coverings
Re: [VAL] Floor Coverings - Tile
Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?
Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?
[VAL] Re: rock guards
Re: [VAL] Re: rock guards

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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 09:08:12 -0600
From: "Tom Patterson" <tommyjoe@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Vintage Trailer Resource

I spotted the following posting on the Vintage Trailer e-mail list, and am
reposting it here for the benefit of our members who may be interested in an
additional source of vintage trailer information, including Airstream
Trailers.  I have been in correspondence with Juergen Eichermueller, who has
permitted the posting of this message.  Additionally, I have ordered copies
of his CD's and will be adding some of the information to my website when
received.

Juergen does advertise on E-Bay, under the name of "trailer-dealer".

- -Tom
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Hi......
first off, please accept my apologies if this sounds like spam.  I do
not want it to be.  I am an absolute trailer fanatic even back when
it wasn't 'in'.  My dad owned a trailer park near Athens, GA and then
later on a mobile home sales near Jacksonville, FL.  Being a military
brat on top of it I was raised in all types and sizes of trailers and
mobile homes.  I started collecting when I was barely old enough to
say 'trailer' and have an entire wall bookcase of vintage original
brochures and magazines including some of my own designs (I studied
architect and was a practising architect in Florida, but my first job
was designing trailers for ABC Coach Co).  I married my beautiful
south German wife and we decided to move back to Germany because of
variuos family reasons. I am not trying to sound mushy or anything,
but I am in early retirement because of severe health problems that
don't allow to leave the house like I would like to anymore.  A
friend of mine owns a website called Allmanufacturedhomes.com.  I
have read where many in the group have discovered the site and I was
glad to read that it is being enjoyed.  I happen to be the 'one' that
does the vintage trailer museum on the website; 99% of the pics, ads,
etc. are from me.  I later gat the idea that since we registered and
copyrighted our material that I could also create collections for
other trailer fanatics on CDs. I then started selling them on eBay.
They aren't everybody's cup of tea, but I have sold a couple, but
nothing to write home about to tell the truth.  I am not trying to
get rich on others, just basically trying to share what I have and
earn just a little pocket money on the side.  Hope you all understand.
I have various files that I have created for my PC.  Each file is a
trailer manufacturer and everything that I find on that particular
brand of trailer.  For example:  I ahve a huge Spartan file that
includes 47 separate files and currently 671 photos, ads, plans,
etc.  Some of the other files that I have are: Shasta, DeVille,
Scotty, Prairie Schooner, Pacemaker, Silver Streak, Streamline,
Airstream, etc., etc., etc.  I believe I have at least 500
manufactures on file!  What I have been doing is if someone buys one
of my CDs (which itself is super) then if the person owns a
particular trailer and IF I have info on it, I go ahead and include
the entire file on the CD for him/her as a bonus; no extra charge.
Here is a list of the current CDs that I have for sale with prices.
I do give a discount if someone buys more then two if requested.
1) 1959 Mobile Home/Travel Trailer Catalog with 2 bonus vintage
magazines.  Most of the manufacturers presented with specs and floor
plans, etc.  $9.99
2) 1956 Mobile Home/Travel Trailer Catalog with 2 bonus vintage
magazines.  A super collection with tons of floor plans & specs!
$9.99
3) 1955 Mobile Home/Travel Trailer Catalog with 2 bonus vintage
magazines.  A super collection with tons of floor plans & specs!
$9.99
4) 1953 Mobile Home/Travel Trailer Catalog & the 1953 Trailer Manual.
The 1953 Trailer Manual is a `must have' collection for renovation
work.  This is the manual that was used by dealers and manufacturers
way back then.  Also with 2 vintage magazines.  $9.99
5) Collection of 8 Vintage Trailer Magazines spanning from 1954 to
1961.  A super collection for the trailer fan!  $9.99
6) Double-Deckers & 2-Story Trailers of the 1950s - a super
collection of all the known double-deckers that were manufactured in
the 1950s and 1960s.  Most floor plans and interior shots included!
If you aren't familiar with the double-deckers then you will be
surprised when you see this super collection. An absolute `must have'
for the vintage trailer fan!  $9.99
Postage is $3.00 (air mail) for one or two CDs, etc. I try to get the
best price for postage that I can and I do combine.  I do prefer
payment through Paypal if possible.  If you cannot use Paypal then
please let me know.
You can get the CDs from me directly or through eBay if you prefer.
My seller ID there is: trailer-dealer
Just do a seller's search and you'll see the CDs. Please keep in mind
that the CDs are copyrighted and it is only fair that one doesn't buy
one and make copies to just give out to others. Please understand the
work I put into these projects.  A lot of love too....
I used to own a bunch of different vintage trailers back in Florida.
Ma all time favorite was my 1954 Ventoura Loftliner.  This was an
8x37 double-decker (two-story) model and had two bedrooms upstairs in
the rear, another downstairs bedroom in the rear, center bathroom,
kitchen and of course the livin/dining area up front.  I literally
cried when I had to sell it when we moved to Germany.  The saddest
thing about the sale was the guy that bought it told me afterward
that he was just going to use it as a hayloft in his cow pasture in
norht Jacksonville.  I don'T want to know what the condition of my
trailer is now!!!
If you would like to write me then PLEASE write me at my other e-mail
address as follows:  Eichermueller@xxxxxxxxxx.de
I check it a couple of times a day and use it more then the yahoo
one. Hope you understand! And please bare in mind that there is a
time difference over here in Europe so I can't always answer e-mails
right away because I might be asleep.
Thanks for your time and best wishes to everyone!
Most sincerely,
Juergen Eichermueller

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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 12:32:49 -0500
From: "Richard Atherley" <safehome4u@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Floor Coverings

I have a '77 Sovereign that has pile wall to wall carpet in it. It needs 
replacing and I was wondering if anyone knows what the factory put in 
originally? I'm also wondering about Berber, Lino, or even Pergo? Any 
thoughts gang??

Richard

_________________________________________________________________
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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 13:02:44 -0500
From: Dave Lowrey <airstream@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Floor Coverings - Tile

My '77 originally had "Harvest" Gold carpet.

I put down the 12" Armstrong Imperial Texture solid vinyl tile (glue down, 
not "self-stick"). It costs 57 cents per square foot at Home Depot or 
Lowes. I used the "Lemon Yellow" color, which was a close match to the 
original carpet color.

We have area rugs in the living room and bedroom.

Pros: Very easy to keep clean. We carry a "Wet Swiffer" and use that to 
"mop" the floor whenever it gets dirty. Also, very nice not to have carpet 
in the kitchen and bath areas, Area rugs can be taken outside and shaken to 
keep clean.

Cons: Tile is slippery when walking in socks. Rugs need the rubber mats 
underneath them to keep them in place. Floor is not as warm as a carpeted 
floor.

Installation wasn't really hard, but you have a LOT of custom cuts. Work in 
small areas and dry fit them before installing with glue. I used black 3" 
commercial rubber kick plate strips underneath cabinets/furniture and 1" 
rubber strips in open areas for trim.

More info on the tile can be found here: 
http://www.armstrong.com/commflooringna/product_details.jsp?item_id=381

E-mail off list if you have any other questions....

Dave

At 12:32 PM 3/7/2004, you wrote:
>I have a '77 Sovereign that has pile wall to wall carpet in it. It needs 
>replacing and I was wondering if anyone knows what the factory put in 
>originally? I'm also wondering about Berber, Lino, or even Pergo? Any 
>thoughts gang??
>
>Richard
>

_________________________________________________________________
Dave & Ann Lowrey - dave_lowrey@xxxxxxxxxx.com

WBCCI: 5074

1977 31' Sovereign International (center bath)
Cincinnati, Ohio 

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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 15:50:48 -0500
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?

Looking to keep down the places that might leak, I just have a phone 
line that snakes out under the grill for the Fridge, and up through a 
cabinet.

Daisy

Tim Shephard wrote:

> Rob.
> 
> The places I stayed at simply had standard RJ11 phone connections on the
> power posts.  Just like the ones in your house.  So all you need is a long
> enough telephone cable to reach you trailer.
> 
> I added an outside phone and cable tv connection to my '71 Safari.  You can
> get these outlets at a store like Home Depot.  The phone and cable jack are
> seperate and snap into the holes of the standard outlet shaped cover.  This
> is important so you can get a weather proof cover for it.
> 
> You can see the pics of mine here.
> 
> Outside connection.
> 
> http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/airstream/images/as_phone_jack.jpg
> 
> Inside:
> 
> http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/airstream/images/as_phone_jack_inside.jpg
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> -Tim
> http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
> eFax (508) 590-0302
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rob Super" <robsuper@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:31 PM
> Subject: [VAL] Phone connector basics?
> 
> 
> 
>>As part of reworking our '73 Safari I want to install telephone wiring,
>>and it should include an interface on the exterior skin in order to
>>connect to whatever is provided by RV parks. Having never yet used a
>>site that provided phone service my question is: what kind of
>>connection (plug or socket) do parks typically supply and what should I
>>install to connect to them?  A bit of searching turns up the fact that
>>there are "RV telephone inlet" receptacles that look rather like
>>standard 120v. plugs and sockets. (But with a third pin/hole, round,
>>dead center.) These are quite different from the garden-variety modular
>>phone plugs/jacks that I had expected. So: would you install:
>>
>>Standard modular (and: male or female?), or
>>
>>"RV" style (and: male or female?), or
>>
>>both?
>>
>>If the answer involves one of the "RV" fittings--either on the trailer
>>or at the park's pedestal--then what kind of adapter (again including
>>the gender issue) is standard?\
>>
>>TIA,
>>
>>Rob
>>
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 15:17:23 -0800
From: "Tim Shephard" <timshephard@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?

When I redid all my plumbing I ended up with an extra hole out the bottom of
the trailer where the high pressure relif drain went.

So I snaked all my cables out the bottom and then ran the plasitic around it
and chaulked it up real good.

- -Tim


- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daisy Welch" <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Phone connector basics?


> Looking to keep down the places that might leak, I just have a phone
> line that snakes out under the grill for the Fridge, and up through a
> cabinet.
>
> Daisy
>
> Tim Shephard wrote:
>
> > Rob.
> >
> > The places I stayed at simply had standard RJ11 phone connections on the
> > power posts.  Just like the ones in your house.  So all you need is a
long
> > enough telephone cable to reach you trailer.
> >
> > I added an outside phone and cable tv connection to my '71 Safari.  You
can
> > get these outlets at a store like Home Depot.  The phone and cable jack
are
> > seperate and snap into the holes of the standard outlet shaped cover.
This
> > is important so you can get a weather proof cover for it.
> >
> > You can see the pics of mine here.
> >
> > Outside connection.
> >
> > http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/airstream/images/as_phone_jack.jpg
> >
> > Inside:
> >
> >
http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/airstream/images/as_phone_jack_inside.jpg
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > -Tim
> > http://www.telecom-pros.com/tim/tim
> > eFax (508) 590-0302
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rob Super" <robsuper@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:31 PM
> > Subject: [VAL] Phone connector basics?
> >
> >
> >
> >>As part of reworking our '73 Safari I want to install telephone wiring,
> >>and it should include an interface on the exterior skin in order to
> >>connect to whatever is provided by RV parks. Having never yet used a
> >>site that provided phone service my question is: what kind of
> >>connection (plug or socket) do parks typically supply and what should I
> >>install to connect to them?  A bit of searching turns up the fact that
> >>there are "RV telephone inlet" receptacles that look rather like
> >>standard 120v. plugs and sockets. (But with a third pin/hole, round,
> >>dead center.) These are quite different from the garden-variety modular
> >>phone plugs/jacks that I had expected. So: would you install:
> >>
> >>Standard modular (and: male or female?), or
> >>
> >>"RV" style (and: male or female?), or
> >>
> >>both?
> >>
> >>If the answer involves one of the "RV" fittings--either on the trailer
> >>or at the park's pedestal--then what kind of adapter (again including
> >>the gender issue) is standard?\
> >>
> >>TIA,
> >>
> >>Rob
> >>
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 21:53:12 EST
From: AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: rock guards

In a message dated 3/6/2004 11:01:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
Does anyone know of a good source for a rock guard for a 72 
Email: nutrend@xxxxxxxxxx.net He custom makes em for 150.00 and sells em on E-bay 
from time to time!

AlanT
Phx AZ
Newly purchased 78 Argosy 30 and 65 Tradewind~ MY YARD LOOKS LIKE AN RV PARK

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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2004 21:23:37 -0600
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <chasm@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: rock guards

On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 21:53:12 EST, AlanTBird@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:

>In a message dated 3/6/2004 11:01:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
>valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com writes:
>Does anyone know of a good source for a rock guard for a 72 
>Email: nutrend@xxxxxxxxxx.net He custom makes em for 150.00 and sells em on E-bay 
>from time to time!


what does he make them out of??  price seems a little low for SS but about right
for a synthetic of some sort.
thanks
chas




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