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VAL Digest        Saturday, September 27 2003        Volume 01 : Number 018




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] About VAC ad's page
Re: [VAL] VAC Classifieds
RE: [VAL] Polishing Wizards... HELP!
Re: [VAL] About VAC ad's page
[VAL] Lexxy's Pickled Cabinets
Re: [VAL] silicone remover
RE: [VAL] Cabinets/shoji door
Re: [VAL] vent cover
Re: [VAL] vent cover
Re: [VAL] vent cover
Re: [VAL] Polishing Wizards... HELP!
Re: [VAL] vent cover
Re: [VAL] vent cover
Re: [VAL] Polishing Wizards... HELP!
Re: [VAL] vent cover
Re: [VAL] vent cover
Re: [VAL] vent cover
[VAL] Chris E re: Polishing Wizards... HELP!
RE: [VAL] Cabinets/shoji door
Re: [VAL] Chris E re: Polishing Wizards... HELP!
Re: [VAL] Chris E re: Polishing Wizards... HELP!

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 01:20:51 -0500
From: <Balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] About VAC ad's page

Tom,

Good point, but this list is about Airstreams, and things having to
do with Airstreams. I agree that people "should not" vent to you,
that "destructive criticism" is bad, though I do think that if people
want to talk about different Airstreams web sites, the pros and
cons there of, this really is the place to do it. I think the changes
in the long run to the ad's could be a good thing. It may help the
VAC get rid of the "work from home" ads. Also, you can quickly
get to the years of interest to you and not go through a bunch of
ads for years of no interest. It appears it will also
help track usage from VAC "member" "non-member" point.
We must remember that the "VAC" is a club and as with most
other clubs, one must "join" to get the benifits there of.
Once again, much like this list, it could come to a point where
someone will have to start a "non-member" ad's page. Change
is not always good but permanent.

Paul Waddell
WBCCI/VAC/WDCU 1270


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] VAC Classifieds


> Hey Folks,
>
> This is the Vintage Airstream List, which is NOT affiliated with the
Vintage
> Airstream Club.  Any venting here on this list
> does nothing to resolve any problems which you may feel exist with the VAC
> website, so lets please drop the topic.
> -Tom

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 00:39:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] VAC Classifieds

I just wanted you all to know that I've responded to
the concerned parties off list, if you're interested
in contacting me about the VAC Classifieds, or any
other VAC website issues, please use my email address
above.

The VAC site has been active at a new server for about
24 hours - I'm just getting started!  And believe it
or not, this is one of the smoothest transitions I've
seen.

Thanks in advance for your patience in case any issues
arise.

Toby Folwick
VAC Webmaster/VAList moderator.

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 07:13:40 -0400
From: "Dave Harris" <gvanman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Polishing Wizards... HELP!

> I am polishing my '71 Safari using Nuvite products.  I am 
> starting with a
> compounder with 3M wool pad. 
> The problem is that I am getting very bad white speckles that 
> I think is pitting in the aluminum.

Tim,
   Are you sure that it is pitting and not the remains of the
clearcoat? I had the same impression when I started to polish
my trailer and couldn't get rid of the spots. After an application
of stripper to the spots they cleaned up without a trace.
Cheers,
      Dave Harris

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 08:02:17 -0500
From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] About VAC ad's page

Hi Paul,

My wording was probably bad.  I did not mean to imply that no mention could
be made of the VAC website, or of the classified ads on that site.
Certainly, all of this is about Airstreams, and in no way were these
postings "off-topic".

My problem is that I perceive the postings as "destructive".  I am not in
any part of the loop with what is going on with the VAC website.  All I have
been involved with is taking the mailing list function, and implementing it
on my site.  That took hours and days of my time, so I will confess to a
certain sympathy with Toby's efforts.  I do know though that the VAC site
has moved to a different server, and that an upgrade to the classified ad
program is underway, but have no knowledge of any details.

I know that problems with this kind of thing can be expected, and believe
that positive, not negative feedback is required.  There is nothing wrong
with pointing out malfunctions, errors and omissions.  They are going to be
there at first, and feedback is helpful to resolve them.

Changes happen -- we all have to accept that fact.  Toby has stepped in to
continue the VAC website.  Programs change too.  I need to change and update
the classified ad program on my site too, but  have been too busy so far
with other items.  If I don't keep up to date, I fall behind current
available programs, and the site becomes "dated".  It doesn't provide what
is available elsewhere.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.  Mainly trying to keep any rancor off these
pages, and think positive!

- -Tom




- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:20 AM
Subject: [VAL] About VAC ad's page


> Tom,
>
> Good point, but this list is about Airstreams, and things having to
> do with Airstreams. I agree that people "should not" vent to you,
> that "destructive criticism" is bad, though I do think that if people
> want to talk about different Airstreams web sites, the pros and
> cons there of, this really is the place to do it. I think the changes
> in the long run to the ad's could be a good thing. It may help the
> VAC get rid of the "work from home" ads. Also, you can quickly
> get to the years of interest to you and not go through a bunch of
> ads for years of no interest. It appears it will also
> help track usage from VAC "member" "non-member" point.
> We must remember that the "VAC" is a club and as with most
> other clubs, one must "join" to get the benifits there of.
> Once again, much like this list, it could come to a point where
> someone will have to start a "non-member" ad's page. Change
> is not always good but permanent.
>
> Paul Waddell
> WBCCI/VAC/WDCU 1270

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 09:34:16 EDT
From: MaryDotson@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Lexxy's Pickled Cabinets

Lexxy,

I read your plight two days ago about not particularly liking the pickled oak 
finish on the cabinets in your A/S...Then I realized, maybe I have a remedy 
for you...

On our unit, I am using sheets of veneer to cover over gouged and damaged 
doors--it's a bit easier than planing and recutting new doors.  Moreover, it 
seems to work (I fill the holes, apply contact cement to both sides, clamp them, 
route to trim, and finish with danish oil).  Now I am matching the old surface, 
but it occurs to me that for you,  it would be fairly easy to put new veneer 
over the whole darn thing (if you wanted to be thorough, you could even remove 
the original pickled oak veneer).  Then, essentially, you would be refacing 
the cabinets.  You could customize the veneer--even get into exotic woods or 
get into inlays (heck, tell folks that that lovely, say--baobab--veneer is from 
special stock personally selected by Wally Byam during his famous cross-Africa 
rally)!  

If you go the veneer route, my only advice is to buy a few test strips to 
experiment with finishes before making your final veneer decision--I was 
surprised how much the color changed depending on the wood and the tint of the oil.

I can't wait to see your new photos.  I love what you've done so far!

Mary
'61 Safari

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Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2003 21:54:59 -0400
From: Daisy Welch <jtdjtd@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] silicone remover

Polly, I saturated a wad of paper towels and held it on the mess for a 
couple of minutes and then kept it wet with it. I discovered this 
because my Vista Views were covered with roofing cement, 1/2 " thick. So 
  I was sloshing the stuff around pretty liberally and over a fairly 
long period, like 1/ hour or more. Maybe with a paint brush ?  Also if 
you keep picking at it and get the mineral spirits flowing in behind it, 
pretty soon it gets sort of like gummy bears and you can peel and pick 
it off.

Daisy

JPPOLLY@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
> I am wondering if "mineral spirits patiently applied " might mean a cloth 
> saturated and applied with plastic wrap over it??? and left to soften the 
> silicone? I have one window that needs to have this treatment on the GT.
> 
> 
> Just Plain Polly
> WBCCI 71113
> 1964 Globetrotter
> 1968 Sovereign
> 1974 Sovereign
> 
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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 12:29:03 -0400
From: "Lynn Evans" <Earth2lynn@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Cabinets/shoji door

I have already burned the cabinet doors ...they were just warped
plywood...and I still have the cabinet facing in the galley to use as a
template but I do know what you mean by the veneer and I have done that
to a dated old bath cabinet. It does look like new if you never open the
door,,,and I don't care about that...who's gonna be seeing that but me
and sometimes the "driver"!!!

This door veneering is a great idea to share for those who don't have an
"overkill" work shop like my "tool addicted" Mr has accumulated!!!  

We are hell-bent on having this thing look completely different.  Right
now I am involved in making a dinette seat that's curved in front with
vertical strips of cherry 1/4" or less thick on the front. 
http://flummoxed.org/lexxey/dew/setteedetail.jpg

I love using this Corel draw for making plans that come out of the
printer actually to scale. Not as messy as pencil drawing.

Sometimes creativity is a curse!!  I mean it.  I get on to myself for
making things too involved before I realize what I've gotten myself
into. I'm making all the handles out of freeform porcelain leaf
shapes....each is a bit different. Like the one on this box:
http://flummoxed.org/lexxey/wood/kleafsm.jpg


Here is a pix of the shoji door we finally got up last night.  
http://flummoxed.org/lexxey/dew/sdoor.jpg
http://flummoxed.org/lexxey/dew/sdoordetail.jpg
Just a little success once in a while keeps us hanging in there.

Lexxy/aka/Lynn

Lexxy,
I read your plight two days ago about not particularly liking the
pickled oak 
finish on the cabinets in your A/S...Then I realized, maybe I have a
remedy 
for you...
Mary
'61 Safari

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 15:13:58 -0400
From: Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] vent cover

I dont want to start up any thing about anyones business but I`m wondering
if the 14 by 26 ? vent covers available as a replacement fit well on a 63
(square cornered ) vent hole .
   The previous owner`s homemade one on my trailer leaks like a peach
basket , and the replacement one is pretty spendy , but making a new one
custom wont be cheap either .
   Seems I recall someone complaining about the fit on the list in the
past, maybe it was made for the the rounded corner later model type or
something ?? Anyway has anyone bought one for a 63 and are you happy with
it ? And like I say , I dont want to start up a slurfest about anyones
business or prices . Just does it fit and work as it should .
  Chris

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:37:51 -0500
From: Dean <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] vent cover

This may not be the best answer but I had the same trouble..
I thought the cost of that special cover was way out of line.
What I did was to cut some Clear Plexiglass  and just Silicon sealed it
to the top rim of the vent... It makes a nice Sky Light to look out
and see the stars at night or the trees in the day.
It was CEEP  Too....
Dean

On Friday, September 26, 2003, at 02:13  PM, Chris Elliott wrote:

> I dont want to start up any thing about anyones business but I`m 
> wondering
> if the 14 by 26 ? vent covers available as a replacement fit well on a 
> 63
> (square cornered ) vent hole .
>    The previous owner`s homemade one on my trailer leaks like a peach
> basket , and the replacement one is pretty spendy , but making a new 
> one
> custom wont be cheap either .
>    Seems I recall someone complaining about the fit on the list in the
> past, maybe it was made for the the rounded corner later model type or
> something ?? Anyway has anyone bought one for a 63 and are you happy 
> with
> it ? And like I say , I dont want to start up a slurfest about anyones
> business or prices . Just does it fit and work as it should .
>   Chris
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:37:56 +0000
From: Mitch Hill <fmhill@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: Re: [VAL] vent cover

At 15:13 9/26/03 -0400, you wrote:
>I dont want to start up any thing about anyones business but I`m wondering
>if the 14 by 26 ? vent covers available as a replacement fit well on a 63
>(square cornered ) vent hole .

I bought a 14x26 from Inland for my 64 AS Ambassador, and it fits 
perfectly. The '64 14x26 is square cornered.

Mitch Hill
WBCCI 21960
'64 AS Ambassador International  

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:05:50 -0400
From: Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Polishing Wizards... HELP!

Tim ,
   I `m no wizard , but white spots sound like water spots to me . If you
dont dry the surface , water from washing and rain show up white . My pits
seem to show up as black spots. Those tend to bleed black over the rest of
it if not polished out or cleaned up with thinner. And if you dont get the
thinner off 100 % a black sheen will be almost impossible to buff out . I
want to try the new scrubby pads by perfect polish . I found that the
Sgrade cleaned rivits and pits best with no thinner . Also make sure that
you wash off the stuff that gets thrown around by the compounder , or it
will leave black stains .
    As far as clearcoat , I found that the remover worked best if I got it
all off the first application . First I used a rubber block used to apply
spot putty , which was ok but small . A regular plastic autobody spreader
left scratches . Then I tried a window cleaning squeegee , that was
excellent , nice and big ,the goo came off clean . I took the nylon web off
the sponge side (also scratched ) and used the soft sponge side to clean
the excess off with water . 99.9 % clean in one go . For some reason if it
didnt come off in the first application , what was left didnt want to come
off at all with the Napier remover I used . However that napier stuff is
good , nicer to use than anything else I`ve tried .
    I also tried using old flannel sheets over the cyclo , worked good if
you changed frequently and used foam pads . I tried old terry towels (
scratched if not carefull) sweatshirt material will scratch too if you dont
change it with each area polished . The wool pads scratched bad when used
alone .
   My caravel looks much better shiny , but at times I wished I hadnt
started polishing , it took many hours and needs a touch up already .
   Just my observations , I didnt really have any answers for you .
    Chris
Dave Harris wrote:

> > I am polishing my '71 Safari using Nuvite products.
> > The problem is that I am getting very bad white speckles that
> > I think is pitting in the aluminum.
>
> Tim,
>    Are you sure that it is pitting and not the remains of the
> clearcoat? I had the same impression when I started to polish
> my trailer and couldn't get rid of the spots. After an application
> of stripper to the spots they cleaned up without a trace.
> Cheers,
>       Dave Harris
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:42:11 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] vent cover

I have purchased several of these vents over the years. The last two were
from Inland, I plan on getting the next from Airstream Dreams as they just
came out with a fiberglass one that looks like it just may last 30+years.
The plastic ones have only been lasting me 5-7 years.

The problem with the fit seems to be limited to just a few trailers - for
some reason Airstream made a few a different size.

Scott
60 Overlander
- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Elliott" <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] vent cover


> I dont want to start up any thing about anyones business but I`m wondering
> if the 14 by 26 ? vent covers available as a replacement fit well on a 63
> (square cornered ) vent hole .

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 16:43:46 EDT
From: JSmith1805@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] vent cover

I had a provlem Finding a vent crover that size for my 65 tradewind I finally 
made a mould and made a new one with epoxy and fiberglass it has a recessed 
center so yhat I can installa 12in by 221/2 lexan pannel in the center.I think 
that the only solution is perhaps to make your own .not oregional but i realy 
dont care.
Jim Smith

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Polishing Wizards... HELP!

sounds like the black pits you guys are talking about
is dried polish.  

You could probably get away with using less polish on
your pad!

Toby

- --- Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
> Tim ,
>    I `m no wizard , but white spots sound like water
> spots to me . If you
> dont dry the surface , water from washing and rain
> show up white . My pits
> seem to show up as black spots. Those tend to bleed
> black over the rest of
> it if not polished out or cleaned up with thinner.
> And if you dont get the
> thinner off 100 % a black sheen will be almost
> impossible to buff out . I
> want to try the new scrubby pads by perfect polish .
> I found that the
> Sgrade cleaned rivits and pits best with no thinner
> . Also make sure that
> you wash off the stuff that gets thrown around by
> the compounder , or it
> will leave black stains .
>     As far as clearcoat , I found that the remover
> worked best if I got it
> all off the first application . First I used a
> rubber block used to apply
> spot putty , which was ok but small . A regular
> plastic autobody spreader
> left scratches . Then I tried a window cleaning
> squeegee , that was
> excellent , nice and big ,the goo came off clean . I
> took the nylon web off
> the sponge side (also scratched ) and used the soft
> sponge side to clean
> the excess off with water . 99.9 % clean in one go .
> For some reason if it
> didnt come off in the first application , what was
> left didnt want to come
> off at all with the Napier remover I used . However
> that napier stuff is
> good , nicer to use than anything else I`ve tried .
>     I also tried using old flannel sheets over the
> cyclo , worked good if
> you changed frequently and used foam pads . I tried
> old terry towels (
> scratched if not carefull) sweatshirt material will
> scratch too if you dont
> change it with each area polished . The wool pads
> scratched bad when used
> alone .
>    My caravel looks much better shiny , but at times
> I wished I hadnt
> started polishing , it took many hours and needs a
> touch up already .
>    Just my observations , I didnt really have any
> answers for you .
>     Chris
> Dave Harris wrote:
> 
> > > I am polishing my '71 Safari using Nuvite
> products.
> > > The problem is that I am getting very bad white
> speckles that
> > > I think is pitting in the aluminum.
> >
> > Tim,
> >    Are you sure that it is pitting and not the
> remains of the
> > clearcoat? I had the same impression when I
> started to polish
> > my trailer and couldn't get rid of the spots.
> After an application
> > of stripper to the spots they cleaned up without a
> trace.
> > Cheers,
> >       Dave Harris
> >
> >
>
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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 14:20:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Toby Folwick <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] vent cover

I've been wanting to make my own just for the
experience - I know this isn't most people's way, but
it would be a reproduction of the original!  

my 1960 vent cover is original, but in sorry shape -
made from fiberglass.  if it can last 30 years as it
is, I think I can make another one last 30 years.

Toby


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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 17:28:20 -0700
From: Brad Norgaard <stream2699@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] vent cover

About a year ago, I ordered one of these elongated vent covers from Inland.
It didn't fit. It was 1/2" too short. According to Andy, Airstream made a
few vent openings that were larger than the standard size. I ended up making
one out of double thickness lexan with an angled aluminum edge that opens
with the original openers. Big bonus is seeing the stars at night. I used a
shade cloth mesh in the screen frame to cut down on heat and glare. If
you're interested, email me off list for more info and pic's. Built it in an
afternoon and has close to 80,000 miles on it.

Brad Norgaard
Phoenix
'59 Trade Wind Twin
VAC #2699, TCT 



> I dont want to start up any thing about anyones business but I`m wondering
> if the 14 by 26 ? vent covers available as a replacement fit well on a 63
> (square cornered ) vent hole .
> The previous owner`s homemade one on my trailer leaks like a peach
> basket , and the replacement one is pretty spendy , but making a new one
> custom wont be cheap either .
> Seems I recall someone complaining about the fit on the list in the
> past, maybe it was made for the the rounded corner later model type or
> something ?? Anyway has anyone bought one for a 63 and are you happy with
> it ? And like I say , I dont want to start up a slurfest about anyones
> business or prices . Just does it fit and work as it should .

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:54:28 -0400
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] vent cover

The Airstream Dreams vent cover IS a reproduction. Used one from one of
Wayne Moore's trailers so the story goes. It is made of fiberglass.

Scott

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Toby Folwick" <toby_folwick@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] vent cover


> I've been wanting to make my own just for the
> experience - I know this isn't most people's way, but
> it would be a reproduction of the original!
>
> my 1960 vent cover is original, but in sorry shape -
> made from fiberglass.  if it can last 30 years as it
> is, I think I can make another one last 30 years.
>
> Toby

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 22:06:11 -0400
From: "T o m  :-\)" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] Chris E re: Polishing Wizards... HELP!

Chris,

What are you talking about in regards to using the wool pads alone here?
You said they scratched.  Why was that?  Did you clean them?

Tom
WBCCI

From: "Chris Elliott" <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Polishing Wizards... HELP!


:    I `m no wizard , but
. The wool pads scratched bad when used alone.
:     Chris

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 20:37:21 -0600 (MDT)
From: forrest@xxxxxxxxxx.org
Subject: RE: [VAL] Cabinets/shoji door

Lynn

I'm very impressed with what you are doing. Keep up the good work.

Forrest

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:40:30 -0400
From: Chris Elliott <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Chris E re: Polishing Wizards... HELP!

Hi Tom ,
  I found the wool pads used without a polishing cloth (sweatshirt ) over
them balled up quickly even using minimal polish (nuvite ) and the balled up
pads scratched . With cloth over them they were ok , but I like the foam
pads with cloth over them best ,especially on the flat panels . Its a pain
to keep tying the cloth on , but it saves lots of buying and cleaning pads .

   After reading some of Tims posts on airstreamforums , I realize he`s way
ahead of me in polishing , I suppose thats cause his trailer is 6 ft longer
, so hes got more experience !
   Mines looking pretty good though , and I hope my tip about the window
squeegie for clearcoat removal will be of help to some . I have started on
my other trailer , should be a real polish lizard by the time I finish that
.
    Chris
    " baldie "

"T o m :-)" wrote:

> Chris,
>
> What are you talking about in regards to using the wool pads alone here?
> You said they scratched.  Why was that?  Did you clean them?
>
> Tom
> WBCCI

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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2003 23:56:18 -0400
From: "T o m  :-\)" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Chris E re: Polishing Wizards... HELP!

Chris,

Here's a tip for you and any others who use wool pads to polish.

Yes, wool pads will get "loaded" with polish but you can "clean" them out.
That is, you can use a *steel bristle wire brush* to clean them and here's
how.

The steel bristle wire brush I'm referring to is the kind you'd you to
remove paint from concrete or to remove rust from steel.  The handle is
usually made of wood or plastic (wood is a lot stronger here) with plastic
being the cheaper, less expensive brush.  I prefer to spend a little more
money in the beginning rather than buying more cheap stuff later. ;)

There are several ways to hold the spinning polishing wheel but the gist of
this lesson is that you want to have the wire bristles at 90 degrees to the
spinning polishing pad.  As the pad spins against the wire bristles this is
where the steel brush "combs" the wool pad.  Don't get violent here!  Easy
does it.  The polish will be on the very ends of the wool so you don't have
to push against the pad so hard that you begin to remove the wool, be
gentle.

If you do the above you will find that you can use the wool pads many times
over rather than using them only once because they got loaded with dry
polish and then you covered them with imitation fleece, like a sweatshirt,
etc.

Let me know if you can't figure out my description.  This is how airplane
cleaners buff and polish aircraft.

Tom
WBCCI 5303

From: "Chris Elliott" <celliott@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Chris E re: Polishing Wizards... HELP!


: Hi Tom ,
:   I found the wool pads used without a polishing cloth (sweatshirt ) over
: them balled up quickly even using minimal polish (nuvite ) and the balled
up
: pads scratched . With cloth over them they were ok , but I like the foam
: pads with cloth over them best ,especially on the flat panels . Its a pain
: to keep tying the cloth on , but it saves lots of buying and cleaning pads
.
:
:    After reading some of Tims posts on airstreamforums , I realize he`s
way
: ahead of me in polishing , I suppose thats cause his trailer is 6 ft
longer
: , so hes got more experience !
:    Mines looking pretty good though , and I hope my tip about the window
: squeegie for clearcoat removal will be of help to some . I have started on
: my other trailer , should be a real polish lizard by the time I finish
that
: .
:     Chris
:     " baldie "

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