VAL Digest V1 #178

VAL Digest            Friday, March 5 2004            Volume 01 : Number 178




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] Re: Grey Water Tank
Re: [VAL] Re: Grey Water Tank
[VAL] Re: Reese
[VAL] Chris Elliot of CO?
Re: [VAL] Re: Reese
Re: [VAL] Call All Late 80s Airstream Owners -- Electrical Problem
Re: [VAL] Call All Late 80s Airstream Owners -- Electrical  Problem
RE: [VAL] Call All Late 80s Airstream Owners -- Electrical   Problem
[VAL] Inland RV

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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 10:11:50 -0500
From: praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: [VAL] Re: Grey Water Tank

In my 54 Flying Cloud, which originally had NO holding tanks, the A/S plant has 
added one 18 gal. tank for both black and grey water. They couldn't add two tanks 
due to space and clearance under the bath. There wasn't even room to add a valve 
to the grey water line so that I could have used a grey hose to connect to a Blue 
Boy. This was told to me over the phone as I won't be able to pick "Pearl" up till 
the first of April. I am very happy just to have ANY holding tank! 

When I get her back I will take lots of photo's of the extensive work done and make 
a site so that any interested can see how the plant did the work. 

Patti

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 07:27:34 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: Grey Water Tank

If you remove the entire insides, and the floor you can put in all the 
tanks you want. Oh, and reinforce the frame. At least I SURE HOPE SO. 
Haven't put the new Bubble design on the road yet so I lie awake at 
night reviewing my work and hoping I don't leave a trail of tanks, 
toliet, water lines, etc., strewn about the roadway on her maiden 
flight which should be fairly soon.
Jo Ann
On 4, Mar 2004, at 7:11 AM, praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net wrote:

> In my 54 Flying Cloud, which originally had NO holding tanks, the A/S 
> plant has added one 18 gal. tank for both black and grey water. They 
> couldn't add two tanks due to space and clearance under the bath. 
> There wasn't even room to add a valve to the grey water line so that I 
> could have used a grey hose to connect to a Blue Boy. This was told to 
> me over the phone as I won't be able to pick "Pearl" up till the first 
> of April. I am very happy just to have ANY holding tank!
>
> When I get her back I will take lots of photo's of the extensive work 
> done and make a site so that any interested can see how the plant did 
> the work.
>
> Patti
>
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 13:28:22 -0500
From: "Patricia V. Raimondo" <praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Re: Reese

Hi All,

Has anyone had experience with the Reese Mini-Lite Weight Distribution 
System for lighter weight trailers? My FC weighs under 3,000 lbs. and 
only has a tongue weight of 275. In looking at the Reese web site this 
system seems ideal for it. I took it to Colorado with only a sway 
control and it was fine combined with my 2500 Suburban but I think I'd 
feel better with the WD added on. Any thoughts?

Patti

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 18:08:33 -0500
From: "Tom" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] Chris Elliot of CO?

Is there a Chris Elliot from Colorado on the VAL list?

If you are there Chris, please write me off list at tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com

I think I talked to you before concerning something I was replacing on our
newer Airstream.

Thanks,
Tom
WBCCI 5303

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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 17:09:10 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: Reese

You really should have a heavier tongue weight with a 3000 trailer. More
like 15% than 10% of the trailer weight. Then the weight distribution
system becomes useful.

Gerald J.
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 20:07:08 -0500
From: William Jacobs <bjacobs1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Call All Late 80s Airstream Owners -- Electrical Problem

Jim,
I was wondering if you had repaired the problem on your coach.  You 
spoke of both inside and out side problems.
Dr Gerald is right, they  are not related.  This is just two seperate 
problems.
I would expect there is a bad fuse to cause the inside problem.  there 
is just to much not working for it to be  a random event.
bill
25 ft Trade Wind in WV

Jim Greene wrote:

>I'm still struggling with a 12v electrical problem in my 1968 Tradewind. I'm
>getting 12V through the battery fuses

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:30:29 -0500
From: "Jim Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Call All Late 80s Airstream Owners -- Electrical  Problem

Hello, Bill

Actually it appears they are related. You are right about the inside problem
being one of the fuses in the control panel. It's a Buss MDM 40 fuse that is
in the blue wire circuit that goes to the A frame and the umbilical cord to
the tow vehicle. The fuse tested good (no resistance) but when I replaced it
with a new fuse, the interior 12V lights and appliance all came to life.
When I connected the umbilical cord from the trailer to the tow vehicle the
outside marker lights worked which they had not before from the tow vehicle
battery. I still do not have tail, brake or turn signal lights -- which was
the original problem. I suspect I may have a blown fuse in the tow vehicle
that powered the tail, brake and turn signal lights. I'm looking for the
wiring diagram for the socket on the tow vehicle  the umbilical cord plugs
into. I have no clue which fuse in the vehicle related to that line to the
trailer. None of the fuses in the tow vehicle look blown but I will be
testing them until I find the one that is open.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions form everybody. Incidentally, there
are  MDM 40 fuses also in the wires from the battery and those fuses are
VERY hard to find. A word to the wise if your unit uses the same fuses.

Jim Greene
' 68 Trade

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Jacobs" <bjacobs1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Call All Late 80s Airstream Owners -- Electrical Problem


> Jim,
> I was wondering if you had repaired the problem on your coach.  You
> spoke of both inside and out side problems.
> Dr Gerald is right, they  are not related.  This is just two seperate
> problems.
> I would expect there is a bad fuse to cause the inside problem.  there
> is just to much not working for it to be  a random event.
> bill
> 25 ft Trade Wind in WV

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:51:08 -0500
From: "Peter Ryner" <pryner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Call All Late 80s Airstream Owners -- Electrical   Problem

Jim,
Nearly every time I have multiple running/turn/brake towing lights out it is
a ground problem.  The running lights normally work as they pick up a ground
through the turn and brake lites.  Have you tried the running and turn
signals at the same time?  That's usually when everything quits or the
running lights start to flash.  If the connectors have in the unbilical have
been sitting for some time, the corrosion breaks a good connection.
Obviously if the tow vehicle lights work without the umbilical, there is no
fuse problem.  Most modern vehicles run the turn and brake circuits
separately.  Just my experience.....
Pete

- -----Original Message-----
From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com]On Behalf Of Jim Greene
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:30 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Call All Late 80s Airstream Owners -- Electrical
Problem


Hello, Bill

Actually it appears they are related. You are right about the inside problem
being one of the fuses in the control panel. It's a Buss MDM 40 fuse that is
in the blue wire circuit that goes to the A frame and the umbilical cord to
the tow vehicle. The fuse tested good (no resistance) but when I replaced it
with a new fuse, the interior 12V lights and appliance all came to life.
When I connected the umbilical cord from the trailer to the tow vehicle the
outside marker lights worked which they had not before from the tow vehicle
battery. I still do not have tail, brake or turn signal lights -- which was
the original problem. I suspect I may have a blown fuse in the tow vehicle
that powered the tail, brake and turn signal lights. I'm looking for the
wiring diagram for the socket on the tow vehicle  the umbilical cord plugs
into. I have no clue which fuse in the vehicle related to that line to the
trailer. None of the fuses in the tow vehicle look blown but I will be
testing them until I find the one that is open.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions form everybody. Incidentally, there
are  MDM 40 fuses also in the wires from the battery and those fuses are
VERY hard to find. A word to the wise if your unit uses the same fuses.

Jim Greene
' 68 Trade

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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:05:39 -0800 
From: "Ross, Wyn" <WRoss@xxxxxxxxxx.co.washoe.nv.us>
Subject: [VAL] Inland RV

Greetings,
I'm considering having a little appliance work done at Inland and was
wondering if anybody out there might have an experience/recommendation
they'd like to share. Feel free to contact me off list if you'd prefer.
Thanks in advance,
Wyn
Reno
65 Globe Trotter

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