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VAL Digest          Friday, February 27 2004          Volume 01 : Number 171




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Topics in Today's Digest:

Re: [VAL] Interior floor tile source
Re: [VAL] Interior floor tile source
[VAL] Another Caravel owner nearby
[VAL] RE: Fridge
[VAL] Towing with a 98 6.5 diesel K2500 Suburban
Re: [VAL] RE: Fridge
Re: [VAL] Towing with a 98 6.5 diesel K2500 Suburban
Re: [VAL] Towing with a 98 6.5 diesel K2500 Suburban
Re: [VAL] calif title for vintage airstreams
Re: [VAL] Towing with a 98 6.5 diesel K2500 Suburban
Re: [VAL] calif title for vintage airstreams
[VAL] Was 2004 international & Gas lamps
Re: [VAL] Was 2004 international & Gas lamps
Re: [VAL] Was 2004 international & Gas lamps
[VAL] Re: Propane Lamp Location
Re: [VAL] calif title for vintage airstreams
Re: [VAL] Water heater leak
Re: [VAL] Propane Lamp Location
[VAL] VAC Membership
RE: [VAL] Towing with a 98 6.5 diesel K2500 Suburban
[VAL] RE: Airstream Flooring
[VAL] water heater
Re:[VAL] Re: Propane Lamp Location
Re: [VAL] water heater

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:02:10 -0700
From: "JP Polly" <jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Interior floor tile source

The size of tile may have changed from 1964 to 1969 so that could explain
why my original tile floor was 9 inch tiles.  The ones I bought were from a
flooring store that is no longer in business, they were the heavy ones they
use in schools and other commercial locations, I don't remember the name
off hand and don't know where the box is in storage.  They are the kind you
have to glue down, not self stick and they have no surface finish, they
have to be waxed.  I like the way they look, though so the trouble it took
to put them down was worth it.  The AS had ugly carpet when I got it, put
down over the old tile which was coming up due to leaks before I got the
trailer.  Now I can sweep from back to front and out the door!  I use a few
small rugs for warmth and color.
Polly


> [Original Message]
> From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Date: 2/25/04 8:52:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Interior floor tile source
>
>     Polly,
>
> >>snip  There is a commercial tile available that I used
>
>     Can you tell me the brand name or where you bought it?
>
>     Well, now I'm really confused.  My tiles are 12" square and appear to
be
> the original installation.  They're under interior pieces which suggests
to
> me that they were installed at the factory.  Are there any other 1969
owners
> out there that can confirm that or correct me?
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Glyn
>
>     
>
> > From: "JP Polly" <jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:11:28 -0700
> > To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > Subject: RE: [VAL] Interior floor tile source
> > 
> > There is a commercial tile available that I used but it comes in 12"
tiles
> > so needs to be cut down if you want the same size as the original.  The
> > color is close though.
> > Polly in CO
> > WBCCI 7113
> > 
> > 
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> >> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> >> Date: 2/24/04 5:54:58 PM
> >> Subject: [VAL] Interior floor tile source
> >> 
> >> All,
> >> 
> >> I have a beige or tan marble pattern, 12" square floor tile from my
> > '69
> >> Caravel sitting next to me as I type this.  I'm looking for a source
for
> >> these tiles (the original pattern if it's still available).
> >> 
> >> I checked Armstrong, Concoleum, Takkett and Winton on the net and came
> >> up blank.  
> >> 
> >> Can anyone help with:
> >> 
> >> 1.  The style name
> >> 2.  A supply source
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> 
> >> Glyn Judson
> >> 1969 Caravel #508
> >> Santa Monica CA
> >> 
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 06:44:44 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Interior floor tile source

    Polly,

    Thanks anyway.  I'm sure I'll find the original is I look long enough.

    Glyn

> From: "JP Polly" <jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:02:10 -0700
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Interior floor tile source
> 
> The size of tile may have changed from 1964 to 1969 so that could explain
> why my original tile floor was 9 inch tiles.  The ones I bought were from a
> flooring store that is no longer in business, they were the heavy ones they
> use in schools and other commercial locations, I don't remember the name
> off hand and don't know where the box is in storage.  They are the kind you
> have to glue down, not self stick and they have no surface finish, they
> have to be waxed.  I like the way they look, though so the trouble it took
> to put them down was worth it.  The AS had ugly carpet when I got it, put
> down over the old tile which was coming up due to leaks before I got the
> trailer.  Now I can sweep from back to front and out the door!  I use a few
> small rugs for warmth and color.
> Polly
> 
> 
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>> Date: 2/25/04 8:52:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [VAL] Interior floor tile source
>> 
>> Polly,
>> 
>>>> snip  There is a commercial tile available that I used
>> 
>> Can you tell me the brand name or where you bought it?
>> 
>> Well, now I'm really confused.  My tiles are 12" square and appear to
> be
>> the original installation.  They're under interior pieces which suggests
> to
>> me that they were installed at the factory.  Are there any other 1969
> owners
>> out there that can confirm that or correct me?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Glyn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: "JP Polly" <jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>>> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>>> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 07:11:28 -0700
>>> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>>> Subject: RE: [VAL] Interior floor tile source
>>> 
>>> There is a commercial tile available that I used but it comes in 12"
> tiles
>>> so needs to be cut down if you want the same size as the original.  The
>>> color is close though.
>>> Polly in CO
>>> WBCCI 7113
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> [Original Message]
>>>> From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
>>>> To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
>>>> Date: 2/24/04 5:54:58 PM
>>>> Subject: [VAL] Interior floor tile source
>>>> 
>>>> All,
>>>> 
>>>> I have a beige or tan marble pattern, 12" square floor tile from my
>>> '69
>>>> Caravel sitting next to me as I type this.  I'm looking for a source
> for
>>>> these tiles (the original pattern if it's still available).
>>>> 
>>>> I checked Armstrong, Concoleum, Takkett and Winton on the net and came
>>>> up blank.  
>>>> 
>>>> Can anyone help with:
>>>> 
>>>> 1.  The style name
>>>> 2.  A supply source
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Glyn Judson
>>>> 1969 Caravel #508
>>>> Santa Monica CA
>>>> 
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 07:17:08 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Another Caravel owner nearby

    All,

    My wife and I had the pleasure of meeting Rob & Carole Brandt last
Sunday at their home in San Diego.  Rob stepped foreword in response to one
of my many emails on the subject of the restoration of our 1969 Caravel.  It
turns out that they too have a California made '69 Caravel and the photos
they let me take are going to be a valuable resource towards putting ours
back together.  Let's not forget the difficult to find pullout table that I
got from them too.  Thanks Rob & Carole!

    They also showed us the way to a great local Mexican restaurant where
the four of us enjoyed a delicious meal.

    They're the nicest folks you'd ever want to run across so if you see
them and their lovely Caravel at the next Airstream get-together, give them
a big Howdy.  

    Later,

    Glyn Judson
    1969 Caravel #508
    Santa Monica CA  

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 10:44:56 -0500
From: "Peter Ryner" <pryner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] RE: Fridge

Ruth,
Sorry it took so long to get back to you.  The place I sent my refrig to is
Central Florida RV in Kissimmee, FL.  Their number is 407-565-5705.  I
talked to "Mike".  He is very familiar with the old dometic refridgerators
and still works on them.  He cautioned that all the parts for these are
obsolete, but as I said in my earlier email,  they rigged up an electric
heater to replace the gas tulip valve in mine and it is still working great.
He said to give him a call and he would be glad to help you out.  I'm
posting this on the list also as a source for others.
Pete
  -----Original Message-----
  From: nickruthwarren [mailto:nickruthwarren@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2004 9:15 PM
  To: pryner@xxxxxxxxxx.net
  Subject: Fridge


  Thank-you so much Pete.  I am following up on Dr. G's lead too.  You never
know time may not yet run out for this old beastie.

  Regards, Ruth

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:06:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Tognetti <ctognetti59@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Towing with a 98 6.5 diesel K2500 Suburban

Hi All,
 
I have a 98 K2500 Diesel Suburban with 3:73 gearing 4x4.  I was wondering if anyone 
else with one has problems towing 8000 lbs. give or take a few hundred pounds.  No 
mods on the engine.  Can not afford to kill the truck.  According to GM I'm under my 
max tow weight.  They list the max as 8600 lbs.
 
Thanks for the help.


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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:30:57 -0500
From: <Balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: Fridge

Ruth, Pete,

Central Florida RVs number is 407-846-4916. If you call the 5705 number,
you will find it is no longer in service. Mike is still there.

Paul Waddell
66 Overlander
WBCCI/VAC/WDCU 1270




> Ruth,
> Sorry it took so long to get back to you.  The place I sent my refrig to
is
> Central Florida RV in Kissimmee, FL.  Their number is 407-565-5705.  I
> talked to "Mike".

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 09:43:36 -0700
From: "Roger Hightower" <rwhigh@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Towing with a 98 6.5 diesel K2500 Suburban

600 pounds is not much of a cushion.  I'd take a hard look at how the
trailer is loaded out and see if some weight-saving couldn't be done.

Roger Hightower
WBCCI #4165,VAC
1975 31' Sovereign
Mesa, AZ

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 12:40:34 -0500
From: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Towing with a 98 6.5 diesel K2500 Suburban

What kind of problems are you having?
The 2500 Suburban with a diesel should handle that with ease.
Now if you have the 3:42 rear end then it may be slow on take off, and up
hills.

Bobby
  ----- Original Message -----
  Wrom: NBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZOWCONEU
  I have a 98 K2500 Diesel Suburban with 3:73 gearing 4x4.  I was wondering if
anyone else with one has problems towing 8000 lbs. give or take a few hundred
pounds.  No mods on the engine.  Can not afford to kill the truck.  According
to GM I'm under my max tow weight.  They list the max as 8600 lbs.

  Thanks for the help.

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 10:26:48 -0800
From: "Gary Quamen" <g_quamen@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] calif title for vintage airstreams

> The older trailers are not titled. I only have bills of sale. I am seeking
> advice on the
> best approach to title these trailers in Calif.

Howdy Ken:

One time I licensed an old sports car that had no pink slip etc.  I had to
go to several DMVs in order to gather the information required to get the
job done.  I suggest that you just go down to the DMV and tell it like it
is.  They will tell you what you have to do.  They mostly just want to see
to it that they get any money "they have coming to them".  If you burn out
that DMV, just go to another.  You'll get it done.

They also have pretty comprehensive instructions (including the forms you
will need) at the DMV website that you can bone-up on before you go down
there  http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/howto/

I brought my trailer in from out of state and they gave me a run for my
money <grin>.

GQ '67 Safari
4082 in CA

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 10:34:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Tognetti <ctognetti59@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Towing with a 98 6.5 diesel K2500 Suburban

No problem just worried about the truck.  With GM listing the Max at 8600 lbs.  I don't 
want to cut the life of engine short.  Just want to hear from others on what they have experienced.

gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:What kind of problems are you having?
The 2500 Suburban with a diesel should handle that with ease.
Now if you have the 3:42 rear end then it may be slow on take off, and up
hills.

Bobby
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Wrom: NBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZOWCONEU
I have a 98 K2500 Diesel Suburban with 3:73 gearing 4x4. I was wondering if
anyone else with one has problems towing 8000 lbs. give or take a few hundred
pounds. No mods on the engine. Can not afford to kill the truck. According
to GM I'm under my max tow weight. They list the max as 8600 lbs.

Thanks for the help.




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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 13:45:14 -0800
From: "michelle" <safoocat@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] calif title for vintage airstreams

AAA is much better than dmv and worth the membership fee, they do all the
dmv stuff for you.
michelle
"Looking back, I have this to regret,
that too often when I loved,
I did not say so."
~~David Grayson~~

> The older trailers are not titled. I only have bills of sale. I am seeking
> advice on the
> best approach to title these trailers in Calif.

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:17:05 -0500
From: "jyoung" <jyoung@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Was 2004 international & Gas lamps

Hi fellow VACrs
International;
Thank you for all the on line & off line suggestions about attending the rally
in Lansing MI.  I hope to connect with the parade into the rally & stay for 2
nights.

Gas lamp...Troubles & possible cures. This is a summery of my efforts.
I have been trying to get my gas lamp in our 58 Caravanner to work correctly
for over a year. It is mounted on the bulkhead at the front end of the
kitchen's overhead cabinets. All original including a built in heat shield on
top.
Our lamp would pop & go out, pop & burn in the air mixing chamber, & the
mantle would slowly turn black over a few hours of burning, & it never did
light up like an electric light bulb.  I figured that since the stove lit &
burned correctly the gas pressure regulator was working correctly for any
appliance,  Apparently not so. Our regulator sprang a leak & I replaced that
vintage regulator with a new 2 stage regulator form an RV store. The lamp
stopped popping, coincidence? While working on the regulator I got into some
of the original copper gas lines & was amazed at the amount of crud inside
those old gas lines, I thought LP gas was clean. Since then some people have
told me that LP gas has an additive that can settle over time. I don't know if
that is true, but where did that crud come from?  I'm replacing all the gas
lines just to be sure. On the subject of old gas, when I heard the new OPD
valves were coming, I got all 6 of my old steel tanks filled (trying to beat
the system). Now people tell me I have old LP in the tanks & should use it on
a barbecue or some other large volume appliance since old gas might not work
well in the finer burning things like lamps & modern refrigerators... Maybe
it's time for me to buy that turkey deep fryer that I've been looking at <G>.
I have adjusted the air mixing valve....repeatedly, the flame seems to look OK
to me but the mantles still get black after a few hours of burn time.  I use
Coleman mantles since they can be found everywhere. I have tried the mantles
from the propane supply store without a noticeable difference. I have other
portable white gas & propane lanterns, catalytic heaters, torches, & hot plate
burners so I'm familiar with how bright the lanterns get & the need to
pre-burn the mantles.  My other lamps burn fine, but I use those 1lb cylinders
on them. Maybe I'll have to break open my wallet & buy a pair of new trailer
size tanks with fresh gas & put the "Old LP Vs. New LP" to a test. All my
presently filled tanks are OLD steel tanks,  some have the same date as their
trailers. I know that I won't get them filled again.  At the rate I burn gas,
& with two new 20lb tanks, my fuel supply will last until 2007.
I apologize for the long winded post, but I've fussed with this gas thing for
a long time. The friendly folks on this list have helped with lost of
suggestions.
Even with the troubles I've gone through, the lamp will be worth it because we
dry camp most of the time & have relatively small batteries.
John Young
WBCCI #6034, VAC, MI. unit.
58 Caravanner (not polished)
74 Tradewind

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:21:02 -0700
From: "Stan Truitt" <stan.truitt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Was 2004 international & Gas lamps

<Gas lamp...Troubles & possible cures. >

hi john
you are right about the build up that can occur in gas lines. i do not know
what it is but i have experienced the same thing. my purchase of a new
humphrey propane lantern included instructions that recommended copper
tubing with an interior plating. (i don't recall the type but zinc plate or
nickle perhaps) i had never heard of such a thing but it might be related to
the build up within plain copper tubing. i did not use the plated stuff as
the people in the big box stores did not know what i was talking about. as
to your problem, although simple, most propane lanterns have a valve, seals,
gas nozzle (jet orifice), burner nose and a bunsen, any of which could
become worn, clogged or damaged in such a way as to limit the proper flow of
gas resulting in incomplete burning. hope you figure it out and good luck
harry
66 safari
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Subject: [VAL] Was 2004 international & Gas lamps



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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:41:48 -0600
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <chasm@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Was 2004 international & Gas lamps

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 14:21:02 -0700, "Stan Truitt" <stan.truitt@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
wrote:

> that recommended copper
>tubing with an interior plating. (i don't recall the type but zinc plate or
>nickle perhaps) i had never heard of such a thing

any AS repair shop should have the stuff.  an example, I use a 2" long piece of
copper tubing in a T fitting off a flex supply line to run my clothes dryer and
my water heater at the house.  about once every 5 yrs, I have to replace it
because the sulfur?? in NG will eat thru the copper.  I have no doubt that there
are similar "corrosives" in LPG also.  fwiw
chas
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WBCCI/WDCU #1130  VAC   S*M*A*R*T
'76 Sovereign   '02 E350 SD PSD, Prodigy, Pullrite
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:47:57 -0500
From: "Patricia V. Raimondo" <praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Re: Propane Lamp Location

Hey Fred,

The Humphrey in my 54 FC is just inside the door on the left, high, 
above where the original furnace was. My guess is that the location was 
due to: the propane line for the furnace and fridge are there and you 
can light it as you enter, avoiding tripping and stumbling around 
looking for the light! I'm hoping it's still there after the 
installation of the propane fireplace the plant installed for me!

Patti

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 16:02:41 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] calif title for vintage airstreams

Ken - go to AAA if you're a member. I went through something like that 
when I bought a trailer in OR and they handled it at the local AAA 
office. If you're a member.
Jo Ann
On 25, Feb 2004, at 9:00 PM, Ken Rapp wrote:

> Greetings:
> My name is Ken. I live in Turlock, cal.  I am new to the airstream 
> list.  I
> own 2 vintage trailers
> and a newer rig that our family uses frequently.  The newer one is an 
> 87
> Sovereign.  The
> older rigs are a 61 Airstream Flyiing Cloud and a 54 Silver Streak 
> Clipper.
> The older trailers are not titled. I only have bills of sale. I am 
> seeking
> advice on the
> best approach to title these trailers in Calif.
>
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:11:29 -0700
From: Charlie/Betty Burke <cbburke@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Water heater leak

It is time to replace it. The inner tank has perforated and will only get
worse.
Now is also a good time to consider adding a bypass to the new one before
it is put in. Depending on were in the country you are, if you have to
winterize your coach, this will make it much easier to do.

Charlie

"Marvin W. Murray" wrote:

> The original Atwood water heater in my '76 Tradewind 25' appears to be
> leaking. For the past year, I have been seeing a small drip from the
> belly pan below the heater, which has now gotten larger, but I can't
> pinpoint the source. Should I just go ahead and replace the heater
> (Camping World sells a replacement for approx. $250 + $100 install)? Is
> there anything else I should do first?
> Any advice would be appreciated.
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 19:19:36 -0600
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <chasm@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Propane Lamp Location

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:47:57 -0500, "Patricia V. Raimondo"
<praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:

>Hey Fred,
>
>The Humphrey in my 54 FC is just inside the door on the left, high, 
>above where the original furnace was. My guess is that the location was 
>due to: the propane line for the furnace and fridge are there and you 
>can light it as you enter, avoiding tripping and stumbling around 
>looking for the light! I'm hoping it's still there after the 
>installation of the propane fireplace the plant installed for me!

on my 67 overlander, it was above the refrigerator on the roadside.  I plan to
buy my ebay purchased Humphrey in the same location.
cheers
chas
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WBCCI/WDCU #1130  VAC   S*M*A*R*T
'76 Sovereign   '02 E350 SD PSD, Prodigy, Pullrite
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 19:55:00 -0600
From: "Buddy" <buddat@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] VAC Membership

Scott Scheuermann:

Please contact me off-line about VAC membership.

Buddy Atwood
buddat@xxxxxxxxxx.net

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:21:52 -0600
From: Kevin D Allen <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Towing with a 98 6.5 diesel K2500 Suburban

Greetings Chris!

While I haven't had experience with diesel equipped tow vehicles, I have
had several GM tow vehicles - - each with the heavy duty factory tow
package.  I finally learned my lesson with my most recent acquisition,
the '99 Suburban which was ordered with a trailer tow package that was
rated significantly higher than the Gross Weight of my Overlander (6,100
pounds).  My previous GM tow vehicles had trailer tow ratings of 6,500
pounds ('95 Chevrolet K1500 Z-71 pickup) and 6,500 pounds ('83 G20 GMC
Vandura) - - I am now convinced that GM is quite optimistic with their
trailer tow ratings - - the '83 Vandura simply couldn't handle the
Overlander under any circumstances; and mountains were out of the
question with the '95 K1500 Z-71.  When I ordered my '99 GMC K2500
Suburban, I insisted on a minimum trailer tow rating of 8,000 pounds to
insure that there would be adequate power/performance for the mountains.

Given my experiences with GM trailer tow ratings, I would be very wary
of getting much closer than 80% of the factory trailer tow rating to
insure adequate performance.  I will admit to be a bit demanding of my
tow vehicle - - I can't tolerate the situation that my '95 Z-71
presented - - just barely 20 MPH at full throttle in low gear when
passing through the Eisenhower tunnel on I-70 - - with the Suburban this
same route was 55 MPH in 3rd.

Good luck with your rig!

Kevin

Kevin D. Allen
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban (7400 VORTEC/4.10
Differentials)
1978 Argosy Minuet
1975 Cadillac Convertible (8.2 Liter V8/2.70 Final Drive)
WBCCI/VAC/Free Wheelers #6359
 

- -----Original Message-----
From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of Chris Tognetti
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 10:07 AM
To: VAL List
Subject: [VAL] Towing with a 98 6.5 diesel K2500 Suburban

Hi All,
 
I have a 98 K2500 Diesel Suburban with 3:73 gearing 4x4.  I was
wondering if anyone else with one has problems towing 8000 lbs. give or
take a few hundred pounds.  No mods on the engine.  Can not afford to
kill the truck.  According to GM I'm under my max tow weight.  They list
the max as 8600 lbs.
 
Thanks for the help.

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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:16:07 -0800
From: "Erica Haaseth" <eriboberi@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] RE: Airstream Flooring

Glynn,
Linoleum City is local here in Los Angeles.  Take a piece in to the store to 
match.
Erica
1966 Safari


> > [Original Message]
> > From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> > To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> > Date: 2/24/04 5:54:58 PM
> > Subject: [VAL] Interior floor tile source
> >
> >     All,
> >
> >     I have a beige or tan marble pattern, 12" square floor tile from my
>'69
> > Caravel sitting next to me as I type this.  I'm looking for a source for
> > these tiles (the original pattern if it's still available).
> >
> >     I checked Armstrong, Concoleum, Takkett and Winton on the net and 
>came
> > up blank.
> >
> >     Can anyone help with:
> >
> >     1.  The style name
> >     2.  A supply source
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >
> >     Glyn Judson
> >     1969 Caravel #508
> >     Santa Monica CA
> >

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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 00:15:43 EST
From: RESORARCHITECT@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] water heater

Dear Marvin,
We replaced our 38 year old original water heater recently and the process 
wasn't that tough. The results so far are great! We were able to replace the 
ugly exterior heat diffuser with the new flush system and door. Also a very 
cruddy corner of the rig is now clean and better than new. We purchased a 6 gal 
capacity Suburban from Sonrise Rv in Escondido, Ca. It was about $300 but don't 
pin me down on that number. We felt that the 6 gal capacity was adequate, not 
too heavy and would recover quickly! We are still waffelling over which type of 
supply plumbing to use. We will be using the original drain hole rearward of 
the heater. 
Most everyone will agree that your 28 yr old heater should go! 
Stuart Resor "65 Trade Wind Twin.

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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:30:01 +0900 (JST)
From: fryckman@xxxxxxxxxx.att.ne.jp
Subject: Re:[VAL] Re: Propane Lamp Location

"Soieba" (so-ee-eh-bah...which is "that reminds me" in Japanese.)  

Hi this is Jeff in Tokyo and I have a 52/53 FC in CA that I need an orogianl fridge for.  
Anyone know what it is supposed to be and where I might obtain one.

Also, for the person looking for 9" floor tiles, they are still made and regularly used 
here in Japan and come in LOTS of OLD styles.  If you want to send me a small bit or good 
close up, I could look for you???

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 2:26:20 PM +0900 (JST)
"Patricia V. Raimondo" <praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:

> Hey Fred,
> 
> The Humphrey in my 54 FC is just inside the door on the left, high, 
> above where the original furnace was. My guess is that the location was 
> due to: the propane line for the furnace and fridge are there and you 
> can light it as you enter, avoiding tripping and stumbling around 
> looking for the light! I'm hoping it's still there after the 
> installation of the propane fireplace the plant installed for me!
> 
> Patti
> 
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Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:33:58 -0600
From: schuetzen - RKBA! <chasm@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] water heater

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 00:15:43 EST, RESORARCHITECT@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:

> We were able to replace the 
>ugly exterior heat diffuser with the new flush sy

are you selling the neat old  exhaust diffuser???
chas
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WBCCI/WDCU #1130  VAC   S*M*A*R*T
'76 Sovereign   '02 E350 SD PSD, Prodigy, Pullrite
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