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VAL Digest V1 #162
VAL Digest Wednesday, February 18 2004 Volume 01 : Number 162
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Topics in Today's Digest:
[VAL] From an Outsiders Viewpoint
[VAL] VAC/WBCCI etc.
[VAL] best tires for '71 Safari
Re: [VAL] best tires for '71 Safari
RE: [VAL] best tires for '71 Safari
[VAL] Re:Fender Mount Mirrors
[VAL] New WBCCI Denver Unit web site
Re: [VAL] Re:Fender Mount Mirrors
[VAL] Re: WBCCI units in MN
RE: [VAL] Re:Fender Mount Mirrors
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #159
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:21:49 +0000
From: hex-n-tex@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: [VAL] From an Outsiders Viewpoint
Rob Davis wrote
> '64 GlobeTrotter, #1824, VAC
> Denver, CO
> "My suggestion is we start a 'three gripes you're out' rule and apply it
> to WBCCI, VAC & valist. Here's an excerpt from the WBCCI Code of Ethics:"
So why don't you (who so respects the hallowed written articles of the group show us
where the above exclusionary rule is written. If it is not written why don't you
propose an amendment to the current articles (constitution,by-laws etc) through the
proper channels of which you seem to have so much respect?
> "I think the folks who constantly slam WBCCI & VAC have already violated
> their membership oath, should be warned,"
My Goodness do you Wallyites actually swear an oath..? Upon what? A bolt of Blue Fancy!??
Warned by whom? Is there a provision for a judicial branch or officer?
> "then released to join whatever
> other organization suits their fancy".
So a member must be given permission to join another organization..?? Holy Monococque!
I guess before that oath yall lined up and signed a non-compete contract ?? hmmm?????
> "I'm baffled how some folks join an organization and then gripe about it
> to fellow members"
.
Hmmmm again, Not that you would or (are) doing just that! ???????
>"YOU HAVE A CHOICE IN THE MATTER, don't renew your membership".
Sort of reminds me of what the MTV rap promoters say about changing the channel.
>"Those of us who are active have made the choice to change
> the organization in a pro-active way".
This post of yours sounds alot more re-active than Pro active to me.
>"Toby has the right spirit when he says "changing the club in whatever
> small way that I have...helping the people who run it now make it
> something I'll like even more when I'm an old-timer".
I have no doubt that the day will arrive when you and Toby and a 'few' others will
see all your WBCCI wishes met.
Have patience .In the interim kick back with a good book...maybe something about
Whooping Cranes.
Gentlemen Utopia does not exist nor will it ever. I prefer to save my energy for
doing the best I possibly can and making the most of what I have instead of dreaming
of forcing the masses to agree with me. They never will.
++HeX++
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 07:23:55 -0600
From: "Tom Patterson" <tommyjoe@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] VAC/WBCCI etc.
Come on folks. This subject has been done and overdone. Lets have no more
postings on the subject, and instead lets get back to more constructive
discussion.
Personal attacks are going to be sufficient cause for banishment from the
list. If you must spew, either take it off list, or find another forum!
- -Tom
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:00:25 EST
From: FRYDMANS@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] best tires for '71 Safari
I need some advise as to what would be the best tires to purchase for my 23
foot 1971 Safari. Thank you all in advance ...
Steve Frydman
Milwaukee,Wi
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 09:52:55 -0500
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <joytbrew@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] best tires for '71 Safari
Hi Steve,
Is your unit a single axle or tandem? If it is tandem, I might have tires
that you could use. Of course, a single axle requires a much heavier tire.
I have a Safari '69 single axle 23' and an Argosy '74 tandem axle 22'
Too bad you are so far away as I have 4 Carlisle 700-15 that turned out to
be too large (29 inch diameter) for my '74 Argosy. Had to go with the
Goodyear 225s (28 inch diameter). After installing the Carlisle's on the
rims, I had to have them taken off. Once on the rims, there isn't any
possibility of exchange. So, they sit on a shelf in my garage.
If you are interested, I can provide you with exact specification for the
Carlisle's. They are bias 6 ply rated for trailer use, not radials. Some
like radials, some don't. I was going back to what was available when the
trailer was manufactured.
These were on/off the rims, never rolled on the road. Date of manufacture
is now about one year ago as I got them as fresh as possible. Maybe $20
each? Most likely shipped UPS from 24589.
Regards,
'69 Safari, Joy
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From: <FRYDMANS@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <AirstreamDiscussion@xxxxxxxxxx.com>; <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:00 AM
Subject: [VAL] best tires for '71 Safari
> I need some advise as to what would be the best tires to purchase for my
23
> foot 1971 Safari. Thank you all in advance ...
> Steve Frydman
> Milwaukee,Wi
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:03:32 -0500
From: "Vasquez, David" <DVASQUEZ@mta-esa.org>
Subject: RE: [VAL] best tires for '71 Safari
Greetings Joy;
Just read your e-mail directed to Steve. If Steve can not use those tires
for some reason, let me know for I have a '73 Sovereign that uses those same
tires.
We can talk off line if you wish. Thanks......David.
1973 Sovereign
1979 Suburban
1959 Shasta (restoration process)
WBCCI 7476, VAC
Shasta Club
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From: Mr. Joy H. Hansen [mailto:joytbrew@xxxxxxxxxx.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 9:53 AM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] best tires for '71 Safari
Too bad you are so far away as I have 4 Carlisle 700-15 that turned out to
be too large (29 inch diameter) for my '74 Argosy. Had to
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:29:35 -0500
From: "Patricia V. Raimondo" <praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Re:Fender Mount Mirrors
Hi All,
I have a set of fender mount turnbuckle Trailer-Vue mirrors that I
found behind the goucho of my 54 FC. They are all chrome and the
original box has a picture of an Airstream with what looks like a Buick
towing with the mirrors attached to the front bumpers. Real Cool!!!
Sticker says $29.95!! The instruction sheet is missing and the parts
are disassembled to fit in the box so I haven't taken the time to see
how they work. Anyone have them?
Patti
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 08:57:18 -0700
From: "Forrest" <forrest@xxxxxxxxxx.org>
Subject: [VAL] New WBCCI Denver Unit web site
Shari Davis has done a great job putting together the new Denver Unit Web
site. Everyone on the list should check it out. It's beautiful - a work of
art, and very informative.
http://www.wbcci-denco.org/
Forrest
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:03:02 -0800
From: "chyde" <chyde@primelink1.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re:Fender Mount Mirrors
> Hi All,
>
> I have a set of fender mount turnbuckle Trailer-Vue mirrors that I
> found behind the goucho of my 54 FC. They are all chrome and the
> original box has a picture of an Airstream with what looks like a Buick
> towing with the mirrors attached to the front bumpers. Real Cool!!!
> Sticker says $29.95!! The instruction sheet is missing and the parts
> are disassembled to fit in the box so I haven't taken the time to see
> how they work. Anyone have them?
>
> Patti
Hi Patti,
I have a set that may be "Trailer-Vue" and certainly look like what yours
sound like. I can send you a photo of them assembled if you like. This may
help out your puzzle process.
Colin (still freezing in Upstate NY)
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 15:20:19 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: [VAL] Re: WBCCI units in MN
David,
There is one WBCCI unit for the state of Minnesota. However before you get
disheartened, you never know where most of the members live within the
state, nor do you know where they hold their activities. Give it a try for a
year. Attend as many of their activities as you can. You will never know
until you try. You may be pleasantly suprised or you might be turned off.
But you will never know until you give it a try.
The Minnesota Unit's membership chairman is Gary Burnham, 22124 Woodland Ln,
Rogers, MN 55374. If you can't get a hold of him send me an email, I can
provide contact info for the other officers.
Scott
s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.net
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:54:11 -0500
From: "Edward Emerick" <EEMERICK@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Re:Fender Mount Mirrors
Hello,
I have a drawing that I can send when I get it scanned. I'll be out on
the road for the next week but can provide it when I return. It's a
diagram I used when I asked the previous owner "how the heck do these go
together?" he sent me this diagram. Luckily I printed it because I can't
find the electronic file. He also said he would send me the missing
parts as soon as my check cleared!
Ed
WBCCI/VAC 4425
68 Sovereign
59 Traveler
75 Travelall (with really cool mirrors from the past, just like my dad
had)
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From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of chyde
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:03 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re:Fender Mount Mirrors
> Hi All,
>
> I have a set of fender mount turnbuckle Trailer-Vue mirrors that I
> found behind the goucho of my 54 FC. They are all chrome and the
> original box has a picture of an Airstream with what looks like a
> Buick towing with the mirrors attached to the front bumpers. Real
> Cool!!! Sticker says $29.95!! The instruction sheet is missing and the
> parts are disassembled to fit in the box so I haven't taken the time
> to see how they work. Anyone have them?
>
> Patti
Hi Patti,
I have a set that may be "Trailer-Vue" and certainly look like what
yours sound like. I can send you a photo of them assembled if you like.
This may help out your puzzle process. Colin (still freezing in Upstate
NY)
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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 19:13:05 -0500
From: "Linda" <belrngr13@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #159
Well said Wayne. Airstreamers, young and old have their choice of the type
Airstreaming they like. Some enjoy the scheduled, touring rally. Others
like just camping and sitting around a fire and dicussing what went wrong
with the old lady now rally. Whatever is your taste, do it, have fun and
remember:
Be who you are, do what you want,
because those that mind, don't matter
and those that matter don't mind.
Linda and Jake
61 Tradewind
77 Sovereign
WBCCI, VAC, WDCU, CPAU
> >
> > Thank you for such a thoughtful reply on this controversial issue of
change.
> >
> > As part of the leadership team of the Vintage Airstream Club, I would
like
> > say that change is inevitable for our Club. The form of those changes
will
> > be in line with the thoughts of those that care to make a contribution
and
> > work together towards a more common interest. Age is not an issue by
itself.
> > It is all about respect, Respect for Tradition, Respect for New Ideas,
and
> > Respect for the Individual.
> >
> >
> > In the course of the next few years there will be more changes.
> >
> > Everyone who cares should volunteer their support and ideas to make the
> > VAC/WBCCI experience a worthwhile one.
> >
> > Respectfully
> >
> > Wayne A. Moore
> > Second Vice President
> > Vintage Airstream Club
> > VAC/WBCCI #15116
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