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VAL Digest V1 #118
VAL Digest Monday, January 5 2004 Volume 01 : Number 118
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Topics in Today's Digest:
RE: [VAL] Dexter Axle
[VAL] sure is quiet today
[VAL] More new Airstream friends.
Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle
Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle
[VAL] the Towster in Riverside
Re: [VAL] the Towster in Riverside
[VAL] Re:dent removal
Re: [VAL] Sure is quiet today
Re: [VAL] Sure is quiet today
[VAL] Bonus wiring in my 1969 Caravel
Re: [VAL] Re:dent removal
[VAL] Joy re:hitch height
Re: [VAL] Bonus wiring in my 1969 Caravel
Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle
Re: [VAL] Bonus wiring in my 1969 Caravel
[VAL] Fw: SMTR - Feedback Form
Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle/hitch angle
Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle/hitch angle
Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle/hitch angle
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 08:29:07 -0500
From: "Gary L.\"Snook\" Hoffman" <thesnookman@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Dexter Axle
Dexter Axles are Headquartered in Elkhart, Indiana. See:
http://www.dexteraxle.com/retrofit_kits___3_5k_disc
Gary L. "Snook" Hoffman, Englewood, Florida. 69 Safari (Mobile Alum
Hunt/Fish Camp) project.
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Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 11:30 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle
Joy
Sorry about the death of your father.
As for info on the axle replacement I couldn't find anything in my file
either.
I know about 5 or 6 months ago there was a lot of discussion on axle
replacement.
If you can come across Wayne Moore or Toby's e-mail address you may contact
them.
One of them I can't remember which had some info concerning replacement.
I think Dr G had some info too that he could pass on to you.
Good luck
Take care
Bobby
Valdosta, GA
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Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 5:34 PM
Subject: [VAL] Dexter Axle
Hi All,
I've been out of pocket for nearly a year do to the death of my Dad,
taking
care of the estate, and caring for my Mom. I now have some time to call
my
own and would like to get the axle replaced on my '69 Safari. My contact
a
year ago was Wnyne Kirby at Dexter Axle in Carrollton, MO.
Unfortunately,
my computer crashed during the interim and I lost most of my files. Does
anyone know if the contact is still valid?
Has anyone ordered replacement axles from Dexter for Airstream, and is the
axle satisfactory?
Thanks for your help,
'69 Safari,
Joy
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 08:50:50 -0500
From: "Ron" <rainsworth8@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] sure is quiet today
Got it Glyn
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 07:46:55 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] More new Airstream friends.
All,
Well it's happened again. Marilyn and I recently met another great
family with an Airstream. Virginia and Vince Fesunoff and their kids own
the Towster, a 1969 Globetrotter that they keep at their lovely turn-of-the-
century home in nearby Riverside CA. See their web site at
http://www.pe.net/~breaktek/darkrmpro/airstream/
A couple of weeks ago when I was asking for any help anyone could offer
on anything relating to our new to us 1969 Caravel, (Remember my asking
where to find the 110 v power cord?) Virginia emailed me and invited us to
see their fantastic Globetrotter at their place. We took a whole roll of
detailed photos while Vince told us stories about everything they'd already
repaired or replaced. Wow, what great folks.
Anyhow I just want you all to know that at this rate I'm starting to
think that we couldn't have been more fortunate to have joined this list and
met such nice folks at every turn.
So if you're ever near Santa Monica and want some pay backs, just give
us a ring and we'll treat you like Royalty just like all you folks have done
with us so far.
The best to you all this coming new year,
Glyn & Marilyn Judson
1969 Caravel
Santa Monica CA
Home phone: 310.453.1892 And don't be shy, call us. That's why I put
the number there.
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 11:18:43 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle
The Dexter axle is custom made to the buyer's specifications. I have no
idea whether Dexter has a file of those dimensions for vintage
Airstreams. The drop angle is selectable (several positions) we probably
need 45 degrees down. The spacing between the mounting plates has to
specified. The distance from mounting plate to the arms has to be
specified. The wheel bolt count and bolt circle has to be selected.
There is an interesting option of a parking brake option. That could be
really handy on a single axle trailer since chocks don't always work
well on loose gravel and depending on the tongue jack for stability is a
safety problem. The load rating for the axle has to be chosen. There may
have to be matching holes drilled in the trailer and the axle mounting
plates after the replacement axle is aligned with the wheel well and the
frame.
Gerald J.
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 13:29:26 -0500
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <joytbrew@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle
Hi Dr. G. J.
You mentioned a 45degree down start angle. Please let me know your
justification. I think I worked from the original Henchen orientation. The
22.5 degree down would place the frame at the axle about 3 inches lower than
the typical 19 inch coupler height. Think towing heavy weight trailers
requires a tongue high orientation to be stable . The 45 degree down would
certainly lift the frame another 3 inches and it might be a best
orientation?
When I looked into the Dexter axle, I worked the following specifications
with the representative for the '69 Safari:
Axle - #11 6000#, derated to 5500# (original 4800#s).
Arm Bracket #6 - high profile, reverse orientation, with a start angle of
22.5 degree down.
Hardware - A/P-148-00, Top Mount.
Brakes 023-105-00LH, 023-106-RH, 12X2 6K DXQ Manual Adjust. The parking
brake would be useful if available for this axle.
Hub - 008-201-09, bolt pattern 6 on 5.5", capacity 6000#/pair, H-D, 12
studs, 15123 Bearing.
Wheels 017-144-00, Dexter, size 15X6JJ, capacity 2600#/each 6 on 5.5 at
75psi, zeroset
Tires - L235/75R15, load D, 2335#/each at 65#s.
This axle was planned to carry 10% more weight than the Airstream Safari
original.
The frame height from the road changes from a no-load height of 18.2 inches
to a full-load of 15.9 inches. My wheel well clearance check says that this
movement would be OK. The minimum fender height from the bottom of the
frame to the wheel well is 15.2 inches.
If my measurements are correct, one existing bolt hole in the existing
bracket will establish the Dexter Axle position that is nearly identical to
the original. Meaning that I'll need to drill one new bolt hole in each
bracket for the installation.
At the time of my investigation, the only shock mount available drops
straight down from the torsion arm rather than up as on the original. The
shock arm "MUST" be welded prior to assembly of the axle. Any post
manufacture welding voids all Dexter warranty.
Dexter has a work sheet at their web site and with your specifications
filled in, will send a ProSpec 2000 that details the subject axle. Be sure
to specify the high profile mounting bracket with the reverse orientation.
Properly measured, this will slip right in place of the original Henchen
axle.
A year ago, the delivered price breakdown - $407 for the axle and $60
freight from MO to my address in VA. Wayne Kirby, 660 542 2232 developed
the specifications for this order.
My rationale for posting this is the hope that other '69 Safari owners might
need axle replacement and/or have worked on the specifications.
Regards, '69 Safari,
Joy
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 13:38:00 -0500
From: joepatwink@xxxxxxxxxx.net (Joe Winkler)
Subject: [VAL] the Towster in Riverside
Glyn,
I have a daughter that lives in Riverside and hope to visit her someday. Days like today
when it is 2 below here and 60 above there. Anyway, how far are Santa Monica and Riverside
apart? Better say in time not miles.
Joe in Wyoming
64 Tradewind
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 10:48:28 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] the Towster in Riverside
Joe,
It took me a little over an hour yesterday. We're about 61 miles apart.
Give me a holler if you head this way.
Glyn
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> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 13:38:00 -0500
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: [VAL] the Towster in Riverside
>
> Glyn,
> I have a daughter that lives in Riverside and hope to visit her someday. Days
> like today when it is 2 below here and 60 above there. Anyway, how far are
> Santa Monica and Riverside apart? Better say in time not miles.
> Joe in Wyoming
> 64 Tradewind
>
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 13:49:54 -0500
From: "David Turner" <jdturner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Re:dent removal
Hello:
I need help with trying to remove a dent in the top driverside of the
13-panel section of a '53 airstream.
Do any of you have an idea?
Thanks for any suggestions.
David Turner
1105 Hancock Drive
Americus, GA 31709
Home Ph. 229-924-8488
Office Ph. 229-937-2567
Office Fx. 229-937-5691
Airstream Web site: http://www.airstreamcollector.com
Pedal Tractor Web site: http://www.shockoestudios.com/tractor.htm
Email: david@xxxxxxxxxx.com
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 13:02:15 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Sure is quiet today
Sorry Glyn - didn't get your test. Aren't you watching football? Dang,
I forgot to turn on the tube and when I did, it was the last two
minutes of the Green Bay/Seattle game. I always watch the play offs and
then I watch the Super Bowl commercials.
Jo Ann
> All,
>
> Test.
>
> Glyn
>
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 14:04:53 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Sure is quiet today
Joann,
Sadly I was born without an athletic gene. I wonder if that would
enable me to qualify me for a handicapped tag at the DMV?
Glyn
> From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
> Reply-To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 13:02:15 -0800
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Sure is quiet today
>
> Sorry Glyn - didn't get your test. Aren't you watching football? Dang,
> I forgot to turn on the tube and when I did, it was the last two
> minutes of the Green Bay/Seattle game. I always watch the play offs and
> then I watch the Super Bowl commercials.
> Jo Ann
>
>> All,
>>
>> Test.
>>
>> Glyn
>>
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 14:41:14 -0800
From: Glyn Judson <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Bonus wiring in my 1969 Caravel
All,
I just found some wires in the Caravel that have me mystified. They're
located in the upper locker over the refrigerator on the curbside. They are
four #16 wires, red, blue, green and black, twisted together into a neat
wire bundle. They are 66 inches long and just above two 12 v wires that
power the dual light in the rear. These wires are not rigid wire, they're
automotive type and indicate no voltage or continuity amongst them.
The fact that they come out of the inner skin and that the black grommet
is identical to the one with the 12 v wires (rigid stranded red and white
pair) below it suggests to me that the factory put them there for a reason.
Does anyone have an idea as to what they might be for?
Thanks,
Glyn
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 17:58:30 -0500
From: "T o m" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re:dent removal
Do you have pictures?
Tom
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From: "David Turner" <jdturner@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 1:49 PM
Subject: [VAL] Re:dent removal
> Hello:
> I need help with trying to remove a dent in the top driverside of the
> 13-panel section of a '53 airstream.
> Do any of you have an idea?
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> David Turner
> 1105 Hancock Drive
> Americus, GA 31709
> Home Ph. 229-924-8488
> Office Ph. 229-937-2567
> Office Fx. 229-937-5691
> Airstream Web site: http://www.airstreamcollector.com
> Pedal Tractor Web site: http://www.shockoestudios.com/tractor.htm
>
> Email: david@xxxxxxxxxx.com
>
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:03:54 -0500
From: "T o m" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: [VAL] Joy re:hitch height
Joy,
Trailer stability requires that the tongue *not* be sitting high so that the
horizontal line is lower in the back than the front. Lower in the back and
higher in the front from the horizontal plane of the trailer is what causes
"the tail to wag the dog".
Don't do that.
Tom
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <joytbrew@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle
> Hi Dr. G. J.
>
>Think towing heavy weight trailers
> requires a tongue high orientation to be stable .
> Joy
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 17:22:21 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Bonus wiring in my 1969 Caravel
Possibly stereo speaker wires for extended speakers towards the rear of
the trailer. Look for the front ends of those wires in the cabinet up
front.
Gerald J.
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 17:23:00 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle
I was thinking without data sheet at hand. I still don't have that data
sheet here at the computer. The loaded angle will be more like 30
degrees as I recall, with travel limited to maybe 10 degrees down.
Enough to allow full axle travel without running wheel into tiny wheel
well tin. Remember that even if the maximum anticipated trailer loads
don't deflect the axle full travel bumps and potholes will. And we'd
prefer that the wheel wells and tires never touch.
I don't know that any towing angle tongue up or tongue down affects
stability, though I suppose wind load with tongue down would be
increased a little because the wind load on the sloping roof would push
down on the tongue more. I don't think that a dynamically changing
tongue weight that changes with wind speed is a great idea. I'd rather
fix tongue weight by trailer weight distribution and have wind effects
be neutral. And for the refrigerator, its best that the trailer be level
on the road, or when parked.
Repairing the sag of the axle may well require adjusting the height of
the hitch on the tow vehicle.
I don't know how the NAPA/Gabriel shock kits for the Dexter axle attach,
but they do exist.
Though it means a higher step, a bit more road clearance may be of
benefit to the trailer when traveling off road, like in a primitive camp
ground.
I've only looked at data sheet pages copied from a Redneck Trailer
Supply catalog, I've not worked with Dexter. My Caravel would need the
next lower rated axle, I believe.
The wheel offset has to be included in the computation of the extension
of the axle arms beyond the mounting plates. The tire center position is
one of the critical dimensions after that for the space between the
mounting plates.
I've not dug deep enough into the mounting plate bolt holes alignment
old to new, but figure after clamping the axle in position with a sturdy
C-Clamp that a bolt hole or two on each side (without wheels and tires
mounted) about 3/8" diameter with my trusty half inch electric drill
isn't a big deal. By drilling the holes with the plates clamped together
they holes can be a snug fit on the bolts. Drilling the plates
separately demands a larger hole because of positioning tolerance that
line drilling saves and makes a more precise assembly even if the holes
aren't within a half an inch of where they were planned.
I'd rather that the axle rating closely matched the trailer load, that
way the suspension has the greatest flexibility and so the least harsh
ride. A stiff suspension from being over rated might not be a great deal
batter than the old stiff axle other than ground clearance is improved.
Matching up suspension stiffness and tire stiffness to the load will
give the best ride.
Gerald J.
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:30:47 -0500
From: "T o m" <tmeeker@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Bonus wiring in my 1969 Caravel
Sounds like radio speaker wires to me. Do you have a radio installed with
your trailer?
I recall finding similar wires in the bedroom of our rear bath 1969 29' Intl
Ambassador.
Tom
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From: "Glyn Judson" <glynjudson@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 5:41 PM
Subject: [VAL] Bonus wiring in my 1969 Caravel
> All,
>
> I just found some wires in the Caravel that have me mystified.
They're
> located in the upper locker over the refrigerator on the curbside. They
are
> four #16 wires, red, blue, green and black, twisted together into a neat
> wire bundle. They are 66 inches long and just above two 12 v wires that
> power the dual light in the rear. These wires are not rigid wire, they're
> automotive type and indicate no voltage or continuity amongst them.
>
> The fact that they come out of the inner skin and that the black
grommet
> is identical to the one with the 12 v wires (rigid stranded red and white
> pair) below it suggests to me that the factory put them there for a
reason.
>
> Does anyone have an idea as to what they might be for?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Glyn
>
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:15:17 -0500
From: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Fw: SMTR - Feedback Form
Contacted Smart Tire about a system for the Airstream. The web site said they
do not recommend the Smart Tire system but the customer Rep said that there is
one and gave a POC for purchasing a system.
Yes, I plan on calling them tomorrow.
Bobby
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Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 1:08 PM
Subject: RE: SMTR - Feedback Form
Dear Robert Gill:
Thank you for your interest in SmarTire.
SmarTire has just released a low pressure tow behind system (Road Voice)
that will work on tow cars, small trailers and light trucks as long as
the maximum cold pressure is 65 PSI. It is currently available through
two distributors:
Bob Dickman Tire 800-800-257-8430
Blue OX - 402-385-3051
Suggested retail for a four position Road Voice Kit is $449.95 USD. An
antenna kit is required for this product. Antenna kits range from
$35.00 - $50.00.
SmarTire has not yet released Gen II high pressure sensors that will
work on pressures above 65 PSI. SmarTire expects to release high
pressure sensors sometime in 2004. These high pressure sensors will be
an add on to the Gen II tow behind system. You will be able to read your
high pressure sensors from your tow behind full function display.
If you have any questions or require additional information, please
contact me at 888-982-3001.
Sincerely yours,
Shelley Lammers
Customer Service Manager
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Subject: SMTR - Feedback Form
These values were sent from on Saturday, January 3 at 8:59 PM :
first_name: Robert
last_name: Gill
company:
position:
address: 3801 Robin Lane
city: Valdosta
state: GA
country: UNITED STATES
zip: 31605
email: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com<mailto:gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
phone_no: 229-460-5195
ext:
fax_no:
type: Products
comments: Hell
I have a 29 foot tandem axle travel trailer.
Will the Smart Tire system work on my trailer tires?
Thanks
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:19:02 -0500
From: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Bill
Where did you get your Smart Tire system?
I'm considering one but can't find a supplier/dealer close to Valdosta, GA.
Bobby
229-460-5195
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Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
I bought a smart tire system. It cost about $230. installed. That is
about 1/3 the cost of fixing the damage if you blow a tire. It tells
the pressure and temperature of the tire as you travel down the road. I
will know the pressure before I get out of the driveway.
25 ft TradeWind in WV
bill
Brian Jenkins wrote:
>
>
http://www.smartire.com/fl/products/recreational.html<http://www.smartirecom/
fl/products/recreational.html>
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:07:20 -0500
From: "Jim Greene" <drgreene@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Bobby, I was told that there isn't anyone inn Georgia.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
Atlanta
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From: <gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
> Bill
> Where did you get your Smart Tire system?
> I'm considering one but can't find a supplier/dealer close to Valdosta,
GA.
>
> Bobby
> 229-460-5195
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:38:03 -0700
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle/hitch angle
Dr. G. and others...
I recall sailing along somewhere in Monument Valley pulling the Overlander
with a steady 35-40 mile per hour wind striking the rig at 90 degrees
imagining that I could feel the load leveler hitch torque the Suburban over
slightly. I have preferred a tongue-up situation which places more weight
on the front Suburban axle. Depending on the load in the Suburban.
Now if you are pulling cows or horses you might prefer different weight
distribution on the tow vehicle to accommodate their movement.
For what it is worth....GAS
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 20:56:10 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle/hitch angle
Tongue up caused by tighter load equalizing bars, not from the hitch
ball being higher off the ground. By itself the hitch ball height isn't
going to affect the load transfer to the front wheels, only the tension
set in the load equalizer bars does that. A 35-40 mph wind will affect
the trailer and the tow vehicle. Sometimes that's enough to confuse tall
vehicle drivers without a trailer into over control and rolling down the
road sideways. Any thing that was just felt slightly is tolerable. You
always want the weight at the hitch ball to be with the trailer tongue
pushing down, that seats the ball most securely in the hitch so there's
no looseness to let the trailer self steer.
Gerald J.
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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 22:23:18 -0500
From: William Jacobs <bjacobs1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Bobby,
I bought my system from the local tire dealer. I would guess any dealer
could get one if they tried. It is a matter of customer service.
The transmitters fasten to the rim with a giant hose clamp. It takes
about 3 minutes a tire to install them. You may want to hold their hand
when they do the first one. That gives you an excuse to see it done
also. When they balanced the last tire, I was in the truck and saw the
pressure transmitted to the receiver from the rotation of the balancing
machine. It was an interesting operation.
25 ft TradeWind in WV
bill
gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
> Bill
> Where did you get your Smart Tire system?
> I'm considering one but can't find a supplier/dealer close to Valdosta, GA.
>
> Bobby
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:43:17 -0500
From: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Bill
Thanks.
Bobby
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Bobby,
I bought my system from the local tire dealer. I would guess any dealer
could get one if they tried. It is a matter of customer service.
The transmitters fasten to the rim with a giant hose clamp. It takes
about 3 minutes a tire to install them. You may want to hold their hand
when they do the first one. That gives you an excuse to see it done
also. When they balanced the last tire, I was in the truck and saw the
pressure transmitted to the receiver from the rotation of the balancing
machine. It was an interesting operation.
25 ft TradeWind in WV
bill
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:47:55 -0500
From: gillguy@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Jim
That's what I'm finding too. I am going to call Smart Tire tomorrow and
inquire about becoming a distributor.
I'm not in the tire business but it sounds like a good product. Maybe I can
get a few customers for it thru my mobile lube service.
Bobby
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To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com<mailto:valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Smart Tires
Bobby, I was told that there isn't anyone inn Georgia.
Jim Greene
' 68 Tradewind
Atlanta
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 23:57:55 -0500
From: "Mr. Joy H. Hansen" <joytbrew@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Dexter Axle/hitch angle
Hi Dr G. J.
My instructions about the towing angle came from reputable dealership
selling utility tandem wheel trailers with a gross of over 7K pounds. The
angle is independent of the hitch weight. Towed without spring bars behind
my F250 super duty.
I use a Hensley towing my '74 Argosy 22, but it's most likely overkill. The
coupler is high due to the sagging Henchen axles!
Keep the comments coming, as I still have a lot to learn! :)
'74 Argosy, Joy
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