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VAL Digest Friday, December 26 2003 Volume 01 : Number 108
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Topics in Today's Digest:
RE: [VAL] Diesel Help!
[VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office
RE: [VAL] Diesel Help!
Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #104 - Wide whitewalls
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - Flats
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - Metric?
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - zinc coating
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - Checking the lights
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - Diesel woes
Re: [VAL] Checking the lights
Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - Metric?
RE: [VAL] Seasons Greetings
RE: [VAL] MERRY CHISTMAS TO ALL
RE: [VAL] Diesel Help!
Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #104 - Wide whitewalls
Re: [VAL] Wide whitewalls
Re: [VAL] Wide whitewalls
Re: [VAL] Diesel Help!
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 01:03:08 -0500
From: "Dash7 (Michigan)" <dash7_@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Diesel Help!
Chris,
This sounds like a plugged fuel tank vent. When the engine starts, the pump
is pulling fuel out of the tank faster than the vent can admit air to
relieve the vacuum that is forming. Eventually the pump cannot overcome the
vacuum and fuel flow stops, killing the engine. During the time you are
attempting to fix the problem, some air gets into the tank to relieve the
vacuum enough for the pump to again move fuel to the engine.. until the
vacuum again gets too great and the engine stops. This would be easy to
check. Take the fuel cap off and see if the engine runs ok.
Don (MI)
>Truck starts up and off I go. Not even a half a mile done the parking lot
>it dies. Get it to run >enough to get into a parking spot.
>
>Well maybe I didn't bleed all the air out of the fuel filter. So I bleed
>it a little more. After a few ties at this when I'm all set to give up it
>starts. Idealing fine. Drive it around the parking lot and its fine.
>Park it and let it ideal for another minute and it dies again and wouldn't
>restart. Give up and head home to ask for help.
>
>
>HELP!
>
>Anyone.
>
>Chris and the Diesel Grinch!
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 01:38:17 -0500
From: "publisher@xxxxxxxxxx.com" <publisher@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office
I will be out of the office from December 15th through December 31st. Thanks.
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 07:10:58 +0000
From: satdjpete@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: RE: [VAL] Diesel Help!
Chris
I Know this sounds to easy but have your fuel tank cap checked! There has been a rash of
problems with the caps.
Hope it helps
Pete
> Chris,
>
> This sounds like a plugged fuel tank vent. When the engine starts, the pump
> is pulling fuel out of the tank faster than the vent can admit air to
> relieve the vacuum that is forming. Eventually the pump cannot overcome the
> vacuum and fuel flow stops, killing the engine. During the time you are
> attempting to fix the problem, some air gets into the tank to relieve the
> vacuum enough for the pump to again move fuel to the engine.. until the
> vacuum again gets too great and the engine stops. This would be easy to
> check. Take the fuel cap off and see if the engine runs ok.
>
> Don (MI)
>
>
> >Truck starts up and off I go. Not even a half a mile done the parking lot
> >it dies. Get it to run >enough to get into a parking spot.
> >
> >Well maybe I didn't bleed all the air out of the fuel filter. So I bleed
> >it a little more. After a few ties at this when I'm all set to give up it
> >starts. Idealing fine. Drive it around the parking lot and its fine.
> >Park it and let it ideal for another minute and it dies again and wouldn't
> >restart. Give up and head home to ask for help.
> >
> >
> >HELP!
> >
> >Anyone.
> >
> >Chris and the Diesel Grinch!
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 07:30:04 +0000
From: satdjpete@xxxxxxxxxx.net
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #104 - Wide whitewalls
Unless they have improved the fake wide whites they have a tendancy to cause horible vibration
at speed. Air gets under them.
Pete
> Gangster whitewalls.
>
> Tom
>
> From: <waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #104 - Wide whitewalls
>
>
> > Get the fake wide whitewalls that seat between the tire bead and the edge
> > of the rim, and keep your modern tires.
> > I think JCWhitney has them, perhaps other similar accessory suppliers.
> > Unless you are doing a show car the fakes will serve well for a long
> > time, maybe outlast more than one set of tires.
> > Anything from Coker is expensive compared to normal mass produced tires.
> >
> > Al G.
>
> > .......................................
> > I want to put wide white wall tires on the car.
> > .....................................
> >
> > > Paul Waddell
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 01:11:04 -0600
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - Flats
My trailer has "seide" (?) skids - probably misspelled "side" skids? If
it has a flat the axle is supported by the skid. I suppose the flat tire
indicator is the shower of sparks coming from the skid!! A severely low,
but not flat, tire would, when getting lower and lower, cause
intermittent contact of the skid with the road, therefore intermittent
showers of sparks. The skids do not appear to have ever touched the road,
so there must never have been a flat while moving.
Al G.
> In a couple years, the very high tech tires that monitor pressure with
a display on the vehicles dash will be required by US law. They will only
include the vehicle's four tires, no provisions for a dually tow vehicle
or the trailer.
>
> For the most part tire failures should be gradual, losing air due to a
bad valve, or a poor bead fit, or a nail hole. If ignored the slow leaks
WILL lead to a destroyed tire because with low air pressure the tire
can't hold up as much weight and so flexes more and that makes it heat
more and heat destroys the tire. Fast leaks can happen, but the driver
should be awake to avoid broken glass and pot holes that can cut tires
and make them fail rapidly.
>
> Therefore if behoves all of us pulling a trailer to watch for tow
vehicle or trailer tires loosing air. In the big rigs (and we are just
miniatures of them) federal law requires daily inspections of tires,
hitches, safety chains, brakes, lights, and structure. We would do
ourselves well to do the same. While the cook stows the kitchen after
breakfast, the driver should be checking tires with the tire gauge, the
hitch and safety chains, the lights, and (but that needs motion) the
brakes. A low tire needs to be properly inflated ASAP, whether with the
portable cigarette lighter driven compressor or at the nearest filling
station before getting on the road.
>
> It would be nice to have automation including the trailer but that
seems far off. But we can do some remote sensing. With tow vehicle and
trailer loaded and tires all known to be properly inflated, I compare the
level of the ribs of the front window protection plastic to the bottom of
the glass in my pickup topper back window. With the old tires the bottom
of that protector was just even with the bottom of the topper back
window.
> A tilt of a quarter inch from one end to the other was common, due to
my unbalanced weight in the truck. I've noticed a bit bigger tilt was
cured by finding a tire on my Caravel low by 10 pounds and airing it up.
> Hence remote sensing of tire pressure. Look back through the mirror and
watch for the trailer leaning slightly by comparing the front window to
the back window of the tow vehicle. Or with all proper, add some tape or
paint dots to the trailer front to show the normal position and observe
while driving if they change. If they change, stop and check the tire
pressures.
>
.....................................................
>
> Gerald
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:09:19 -0600
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - Metric?
Hello! On my 1998 Chevy van the only thing I've encountered that is NOT
metric is the tie rod adjustment sleeve clamp screws. So far everything
else has been metric.
I notice that GM has dropped the diesel and the 8.1L (496) 340 HP gasser
from the vans. The ONLY engine offered in the 3500's (1T Express) is the
6L gas engine, 300 HP. Why no diesel in a van that sells mostly to
commercial buyers?
Al G.
> I had a GM Diesel in the 80s that was a nightmare!!!!! It included a
METRIC transmission that added to the ADVENTURE!!!!!
..........................................
> AlanT
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:28:45 -0600
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - zinc coating
Sure, hot dip is thicker, so...it adds more weight, and changes the
dimensions of the mating surfaces to some degree. I don't think most of
us are trying to make our trailers last 200 years anyway.
Another thing the company here warned me about is that hot-dipping warps
the parts, so if you do not want to or cannot straighten your frame after
hot-dipping it, don't have it hot-dipped.
The zinc is sacrificial only where the coating, electro or dip, has been
broken, like scratched. If the steel is not exposed the zinc stays put in
any environment you are likely to have your trailer in.
Al
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>
> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 15:34:26 -0600
> From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer"
> <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #105 - Waste of money?
>
> Generally, hot dipped galvanizing is considered to give better
protection than electrogalvanizing. The steel is bare, but fluxed going
into the hot dip and the bond is very good. As good a bond as
electroplating and the coating is much thicker. Zinc protects by being
the sacrificial material when the steel is exposed to the same moisture
as the zinc. The thicker the zinc, the less it is likely to be porous,
and the more zinc there is to be sacrificed. Because more zinc is used,
construction nails, bolts, and hardware that are hot dipped cost a great
deal more than electroplated zinc. Electroplated hardware outdoors tends
to rust in less than a year, hot dipped lasts many years.
>
> All those power transmission towers were hot dipped, I'm certain. Also
all their hardware.
>
> Gerald J.
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:42:52 -0600
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - Checking the lights
When I was setting up the new (to me) van, which has separate stop and
turn lights, I thought I had everything connected correctly.
The 4 way flasher test showed everything to work - the stop and turn
lights all worked.
Then I put my stick between the seat and the brake pedal, and went back
to check out. NO brake lights!
If I had relied on the 4 way flasher test, I would have gone out with no
brake lights.
Turned out that no converter was needed. Apparently the factory wiring
harness is set up to connect to combined stop-turn lights on most N.
American trailers since the early '50's. I disconnected the separate stop
light wire from the converter and everything worked right.
Al G.
>
> When checking trailer signal lights, I find it is much faster to turn
on the 4 way flasher than to individually check stop, right turn and left
turn. Electrically, from the switching in the tow vehicle on back, stop
and turn use the same wires and same lamps, so once ANY of them works,
the others will work until the two vehicle wiring breaks, so a 4
way flasher check is simple (takes only one person and one trip around
the rig) and sufficient.
>
> Gerald
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 01:02:22 -0600
From: waymark1@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - Diesel woes
Diesels don't mix air with the fuel in any way like gas (spark ignition)
engines. They always run with more air than is needed for the fuel to
burn completely. The combustion chamber is full of air, compressed to oh,
19:1, 21:1 or some such, and then the fuel is sprayed in. [Direct
gasoline injection is a new thing on the market.]
Severely restricted intake, such as from a filthy air cleaner, reduces
the amount of air, lowers its pressure, resulting in lower compression
peak pressure. If the compression is marginal to start with, this may
cause poor ignition.
The intermittent stalling and failure to start sounds more like a fuel
problem. My Ford diesel tractor would start, run for a few minutes, then
die. Turned out to have clogged fuel filters.
Al
> One other thing - when was the last time the air filter was changed?
> Your engine "could" be getting fuel but the incorrect amount of air to
mix with the fuel. If you haven't changed the air filter since you've
owned the truck OR it has been awhile since this was done I'd replace
that also.
>
.....................................................
>
> Tom
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 09:18:53 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Checking the lights
I meant that 4 way flasher test only as a quick just hitched or daily
operational test, NOT while doing the initial wiring. For certain while
proving out the wiring and connections, all systems must be checked
individually, stop, left turn, and right turn. After that its unlikely
that a bad connection (corrosion in the plug being the worst case or a
corroded fuse) will connect right to left turn or some bad error like
that. A bad ground will cause some confusing signals though. But with a
bad ground the 4 way flasher test won't work right, or may flash the
marker lights if they aren't one during that test. The 4 way flasher
test is just a quick way of testing for normalcy, its not good for
debugging a broken or new system. It depends on the tow vehicle not
breaking down those indicator systems, and the tow vehicle breaking
those systems isn't common.
Gerald J.
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 10:50:29 -0500
From: Dick Kenan <as5368@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #107 - Metric?
I had the same question about the Suburban, which is no longer
offered in a Diesel. I have been told that the Allison transmission is too
tall to fit in the current frame for light trucks; so the Diesel is only
offered on the Sierra 2500 HD. Someone else suggested that the Duramax
Diesel needed a stronger frame, hence the HD requirement. Perhaps the same
dimensional problem affects the vans?
- - Dick
(5368)
[snip]
>I notice that GM has dropped the diesel and the 8.1L (496) 340 HP gasser
>from the vans. The ONLY engine offered in the 3500's (1T Express) is the
>6L gas engine, 300 HP. Why no diesel in a van that sells mostly to
>commercial buyers?
"The trouble with most folks isn't so much their ignorance, as knowing so
many things that ain't so."
- -- Josh Billings
- ---------------------------------------
Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
Retired and loving it!
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
Atlanta
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:10:03 -0700
From: "Polly Pulver" <jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Seasons Greetings
Dear Jim - wishing you and yours a good holiday. Snow is coming down here
in the Rockies and we plan to go skiing tomorrow up on the mesa at 11,000
feet - just the kind of Christmas I have always wanted!
Polly in CO
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 13:16:59 -0700
From: "Polly Pulver" <jppolly@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] MERRY CHISTMAS TO ALL
Dear Pearl, Hope you have a good holiday this year. We on the list are
very fond of you.
My daughter went to a Vintage rally with mw this year and had a great
time and she is planning to go again next summer to "Garden of the Gods" in
CO. She and her husband love my Globetrotter and will inherit it when I
can't use it anymore so I am teaching her how to treat it with care.
.It must be very hard for you to part with your AS. I have only had mine
since '85, I obtained it when the previous owners couldn't use it anymore
because one of them was wheelchair bound.
Best, Polly Pulver in CO WBCCI 7113
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 14:04:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Chris Tognetti <ctognetti59@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Diesel Help!
Hi All,
This seemed to fix the problem in the beginning as I was able to get 12 miles going up hills
and everything. As it was Christmas and we were on our way to family. I decide to stop and
try this. It work and we decide to go to the nearest house which was part way home. Got
there shut the truck off and everything was great. Happen to park the truck on a driveway
that had a incline to it. Truck park tail down. Later when it was time to go it wouldn't
start. So we moved it st a slant with front down and let it sit 10 minutes. Started and
ideal for 10 minutes no problem. Took off for home and it died going down hill about 3 miles
away. Gave up. Got it off the road and talk to friend who owns a shop he has a friend that
does diesel work in the next town over from were the truck is. Hope to have it tow and work on.
Sad part is I love the truck for the short time I had it. It's killing me at the moment.
Chris and the Diesel Grinch.
"Dash7 (Michigan)" <dash7_@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
Chris,
This sounds like a plugged fuel tank vent. When the engine starts, the pump
is pulling fuel out of the tank faster than the vent can admit air to
relieve the vacuum that is forming. Eventually the pump cannot overcome the
vacuum and fuel flow stops, killing the engine. During the time you are
attempting to fix the problem, some air gets into the tank to relieve the
vacuum enough for the pump to again move fuel to the engine.. until the
vacuum again gets too great and the engine stops. This would be easy to
check. Take the fuel cap off and see if the engine runs ok.
Don (MI)
>Truck starts up and off I go. Not even a half a mile done the parking lot
>it dies. Get it to run >enough to get into a parking spot.
>
>Well maybe I didn't bleed all the air out of the fuel filter. So I bleed
>it a little more. After a few ties at this when I'm all set to give up it
>starts. Idealing fine. Drive it around the parking lot and its fine.
>Park it and let it ideal for another minute and it dies again and wouldn't
>restart. Give up and head home to ask for help.
>
>
>HELP!
>
>Anyone.
>
>Chris and the Diesel Grinch!
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 03 18:17:47 -0700
From: Roy Lashway <rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #104 - Wide whitewalls
>Get the fake wide whitewalls that seat between the tire bead and the edge
>of the rim, and keep your modern tires.
===========
Whitney catalog does not carry fake whitewalls and haven't found any
source. I was told the feds. outlawed these for safety reasons? If
anyone knows where they can be found please speak up. Thanks
Roy Lashway
'78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
WBCCI 1610 VAC
rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com
web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
(polishing report included)
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 20:05:36 -0600
From: overlander64 <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Wide whitewalls
Greetings Roy!
I don't know about the legality issue, but did notice that
the Porta Walls have become somewhat difficult to find.
There is one supplier that I know of for 15" Porta Walls in
the 1 3/4" whitewall width. They are available via the web
store linked below:
http://www.antiquecarparts.net/parts_are_parts.htm
I don't know if these are the width that you had in mind,
but they are the only ones that I have seen available from a
US supplier. The others have been either from Australia or
New Zeland.
Good luck with your search!
Kevin
Kevin D. Allen
WBCCI/VAC #6359
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado
Convertible
> Whitney catalog does not carry fake whitewalls and haven't
> found any source. I was told the feds. outlawed these
> for safety reasons? If anyone knows where they can be
> found please speak up. Thanks
>
> Roy Lashway
> '78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
> WBCCI 1610 VAC
> rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
> (polishing report included)
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 22:48:14 -0500
From: "Jim Stewart" <9stewart@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Wide whitewalls
The Whitewall Candy Store is offering a wide whitewall trailer tire for $184
ea. I believe it is a Goodyear Marathon with a whitewall pressed on some
way. (I called Goodyear, and they knew nothing about the tire). The web site
is www.whitewallcandystore.com
It might be fun to have these tires for show or around town. I decided I
didn't want the tires since Goodyear wouldn't admit to making them.
For auto tires, Coker has a non radial wide wall rated over 1900 lbs.
Jim
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From: "overlander64" <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Cc: <rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] Wide whitewalls
> Greetings Roy!
>
> I don't know about the legality issue, but did notice that
> the Porta Walls have become somewhat difficult to find.
> There is one supplier that I know of for 15" Porta Walls in
> the 1 3/4" whitewall width. They are available via the web
> store linked below:
>
> http://www.antiquecarparts.net/parts_are_parts.htm
>
> I don't know if these are the width that you had in mind,
> but they are the only ones that I have seen available from a
> US supplier. The others have been either from Australia or
> New Zeland.
>
> Good luck with your search!
>
> Kevin
>
> Kevin D. Allen
> WBCCI/VAC #6359
> 1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
> 1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre/1975 Cadillac Eldorado
> Convertible
>
>
> > Whitney catalog does not carry fake whitewalls and haven't
> > found any source. I was told the feds. outlawed these
> > for safety reasons? If anyone knows where they can be
> > found please speak up. Thanks
> >
> > Roy Lashway
> > '78 Argosy,'56 Bubble
> > WBCCI 1610 VAC
> > rlashway@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> > web site: www.zianet.com/rlashway
> > (polishing report included)
>
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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 21:11:49 -0700
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Diesel Help!
Hi Chris,
I have heard that those model diesels have some type of fuel sensor that is
very sensitive and will shut down because of dirty fuel? Good luck. GAS
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Tognetti" <ctognetti59@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2003 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: [VAL] Diesel Help!
> Hi All,
>
> This seemed to fix the problem in the beginning as I was able to get 12
miles going up hills and everything. As it was Christmas and we were on our
way to family. I decide to stop and try this. It work and we decide to go
to the nearest house which was part way home. Got there shut the truck off
and everything was great. Happen to park the truck on a driveway that had a
incline to it. Truck park tail down. Later when it was time to go it
wouldn't start. So we moved it st a slant with front down and let it sit 10
minutes. Started and ideal for 10 minutes no problem. Took off for home
and it died going down hill about 3 miles away. Gave up. Got it off the
road and talk to friend who owns a shop he has a friend that does diesel
work in the next town over from were the truck is. Hope to have it tow and
work on.
>
> Sad part is I love the truck for the short time I had it. It's killing me
at the moment.
>
> Chris and the Diesel Grinch.
>
>
> "Dash7 (Michigan)" <dash7_@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
> Chris,
>
> This sounds like a plugged fuel tank vent. When the engine starts, the
pump
> is pulling fuel out of the tank faster than the vent can admit air to
> relieve the vacuum that is forming. Eventually the pump cannot overcome
the
> vacuum and fuel flow stops, killing the engine. During the time you are
> attempting to fix the problem, some air gets into the tank to relieve the
> vacuum enough for the pump to again move fuel to the engine.. until the
> vacuum again gets too great and the engine stops. This would be easy to
> check. Take the fuel cap off and see if the engine runs ok.
>
> Don (MI)
>
>
> >Truck starts up and off I go. Not even a half a mile done the parking lot
> >it dies. Get it to run >enough to get into a parking spot.
> >
> >Well maybe I didn't bleed all the air out of the fuel filter. So I bleed
> >it a little more. After a few ties at this when I'm all set to give up it
> >starts. Idealing fine. Drive it around the parking lot and its fine.
> >Park it and let it ideal for another minute and it dies again and
wouldn't
> >restart. Give up and head home to ask for help.
> >
> >
> >HELP!
> >
> >Anyone.
> >
> >Chris and the Diesel Grinch!
> >
> >
> >
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