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VAL Digest         Thursday, December 18 2003         Volume 01 : Number 100




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Topics in Today's Digest:

[VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office
Re: [VAL] Vintage Advantage
[VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #99
[VAL] Vintage Advantage
[VAL] Vintage Advantage
Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #99
Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #99
Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #99
[VAL] RE: Shower curtain glides
[VAL] RE:Vintage Advantage
Re: [VAL] Re: Reese Springs on Pat's  Safari and Flying Cloud
[VAL] Re: bike racks
Re: [VAL] RE: Shower curtain glides
RE: [VAL] We're Home! (Long)
Re: [VAL] RE: Shower curtain glides
Re: [VAL] Re: Reese Springs on Pat's  Safari and Flying Cloud
Re: [VAL] RE: Shower curtain glides
Re: [VAL] Re: bike racks
Re: [VAL] We're Home! (Long)
Re: [VAL] Re: bike racks
RE: [VAL] Re: bike racks
Re: [VAL] Re: bike racks
Re: [VAL] RE: Shower curtain glides

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:23:42 -0500
From: "publisher@xxxxxxxxxx.com" <publisher@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Maurice Tierney Out of Office

I will be out of the office from December 15th through December 31st. Thanks.

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:07:01 -0700
From: Brad Norgaard <stream2699@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Vintage Advantage

My Vintage Advantage came yesterday, best one yet. I will be sending in an
article, photos or something to contribute. Paul, did your label mention
when your membership expires or the new password? Just wondering.

Brad Norgaard
Phoenix
'59 Trade Wind Twin
VAC #2699, TCT 



> Don't know if I'm one of the first or one of the last. But I got
> the new one today and I think its great!! Thanks to all that
> help put it together! It makes me want to send in some kind
> of story and pic's.
> 
> Paul Waddell
> WBCCI/VAC/WDCU 1270
> 66 Overlander
> 70 23' LY single

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 07:38:41 -0500
From: "Patricia V. Raimondo" <praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #99

Excellent advise Oliver! I will go to the Reese site to arm myself with 
info. for any possible argument.  I'm not expecting a problem with 
them. I had written a letter to both CW Corp. and Alpin Haus praising 
them for their prompt attention when I came in for emergency help after 
the Hensley incident. And of course, I ended up spending a small 
fortune while there! I think the CW salespeople made the weight 
decision and Alpin Haus just installed what what given to them. It 
annoys me that I'll have to drive back up there (4 hrs.) to resolve it!

Is it possible to get a weight that will work correctly with both the 
6500 lb. Safari and the 2600 lb. Flying Cloud?

Patti

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:54:55 -0500
From: Rick Langer <farreach@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: [VAL] Vintage Advantage

I agree with Paul, it's a first class publication. I wish the editors of the
Blue Beret would check it out.

My shipping label didn't have the password for the VAC website. Was it just
me or do others not have the password either? Should we just continue to use
the previous one?

Rick Langer
'66 GT #3847


> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:38:27 -0500
> From: <Balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Vintage Advantage
>
> Don't know if I'm one of the first or one of the last. But I got
> the new one today and I think its great!! Thanks to all that
> help put it together! It makes me want to send in some kind
> of story and pic's.
>
> Paul Waddell
> WBCCI/VAC/WDCU 1270
> 66 Overlander
> 70 23' LY single

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:13:59 -0500
From: "Deborah Bede" <stillwaterstudio@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Vintage Advantage

What a great issue!  Thanks to all who put in so much hard work.

Deborah

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 11:05:01 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #99

Patti,

The weight capacity of the bars should be near the tongue weight of the
loaded trailer. So you will want to get tongue weights (loaded) to answer
your question as to one set of bars or two.

Scott
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From: "Patricia V. Raimondo" <praimond@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:38 AM
Subject: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #99


> Excellent advise Oliver! I will go to the Reese site to arm myself with
> info. for any possible argument.  I'm not expecting a problem with
> them. I had written a letter to both CW Corp. and Alpin Haus praising
> them for their prompt attention when I came in for emergency help after
> the Hensley incident. And of course, I ended up spending a small
> fortune while there! I think the CW salespeople made the weight
> decision and Alpin Haus just installed what what given to them. It
> annoys me that I'll have to drive back up there (4 hrs.) to resolve it!
>
> Is it possible to get a weight that will work correctly with both the
> 6500 lb. Safari and the 2600 lb. Flying Cloud?
>
> Patti
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 10:40:11 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #99

You want to base the strength of the equalizing bars on the tongue
weight, not the total trailer weight. Light weight bars will just mean
not as much of the tongue weight will be transferred to the front axle
as a perfectly matched set.

Gerald J.
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:14:45 -0500
From: Dick Kenan <as5368@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: VAL Digest V1 #99

Patricia:

         Could you tell us what happened with your Hensley?  I have one, 
and would be very interested in knowing what a "Hensley incident" might be.

- - Dick
(5368)
[...snip]when I came in for emergency help after the Hensley incident. 
[snip...[

"The trouble with most folks isn't so much their ignorance, as knowing so 
many things that ain't so."
- -- Josh Billings
- ---------------------------------------
Dick Kenan Tel: 770-451-0672
Retired and loving it!
WBCCI # 5368, 28' 1995 Excella
Atlanta
mailto:as5368@xxxxxxxxxx.com
http://www.mindspring.com/~as5368/ 

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:35:33 -0800
From: "Stephanie Roberts" <stefrobrts@stephanies-mustang.com>
Subject: [VAL] RE: Shower curtain glides

Hi there! I haven't found the glides yet. Apparently sew-on-tabs are one of
the few items that you can't buy over the internet. At least I haven't found
them. I was going to go try checking out a fabric store next time I go into
town.

Stephanie
Battle Ground, WA
68 Caravel #3717

> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 22:01:14 -0700
> From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: Re: [VAL] Shower curtain glides
>
> Hi Stephanie,
>
> Did you ever find those curtain gliders?  I'm in need of those
> also.  If so
> would you please share the source?
>
> thanks,
> GAS

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:35:36 -0800
From: "Stephanie Roberts" <stefrobrts@stephanies-mustang.com>
Subject: [VAL] RE:Vintage Advantage

I agree! I just got my first issue a couple weeks ago, and it's great! Does
anyone know what the interior shot on page 22 is from? It looks too nice to
be a trailer!

Stephanie
Battle Ground, WA
68 Caravel #3717




> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 01:38:27 -0500
> From: <Balloon@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Subject: [VAL] Vintage Advantage
>
> Don't know if I'm one of the first or one of the last. But I got
> the new one today and I think its great!! Thanks to all that
> help put it together! It makes me want to send in some kind
> of story and pic's.
>
> Paul Waddell
> WBCCI/VAC/WDCU 1270
> 66 Overlander
> 70 23' LY single

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:30:57 -0800
From: "Oliver Filippi" <ofilippi@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: Reese Springs on Pat's  Safari and Flying Cloud

Pat,
As Dr. J. pointed out, the equalizing hitch spring bars are to transfer the
TONGUE Weight forward to equally load the front and rear axles of the tow
vehicle.

Reese shows three spring sets, for a tongue weight of 600, 800, and 1200
pounds respectively.  I don't know what your tongue weight is (except a lot
less tha 1200 lbs.).

My '76 owner's manual shows factory tongue weights (without options or
variable weights) from 420 to 630  lbs for that vintage 21 -25 footers.
Newer trailers are heavier and probably have higher tongue weights too.

If you don't want to buy two sets of spring bars and the lighter tongue
weight is a little under 400 Lbs., I think you would be OK with the 600 Lb
springs.  Of course your best bet would be to ask Reese the practical tongue
weight ranges for the 600 and 800 lb. springs.

Airstream or the list could give you the tongue weights of your trailers.
Actually the best way would be to simply weigh them yourself using a lever
arrangement and a bathroom scale, per the owner's manual.

Oliver Filippi

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 12:27:35 -0800 (PST)
From: jon fitz <fitzjo1@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [VAL] Re: bike racks

Perhaps bumper load-induced frame separation is a
myth.  However, I definitely had frame separation on
my 68.  Some of this was rot induced, as RJ suggested.
 However, on the other side, the rather sparse
hardware had pulled right through the aluminum
channel.  It's hard to know if this happenned before
or after the rot set in on the other side.  Certainly,
the stresses on the sound side would have increased as
the other side rotted and gave way.  But, the hardware
was definitely a little minimal by my tastes.  

I feel pretty confident about the frame/body
connection now. The new plywood is sealed with epoxy,
the channel is reinforced with aluminum angle and the
rear is properly sealed against the weather.  But, I
would still caution against putting much load on the
original design.  Just my opinion, though.

Jon in SC
68 Overkill

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:58:31 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: Shower curtain glides

For the drapery glides I picked up some at Byerly RV near St. Louis, and
some at Gookin RV center at Story City, Iowa, and from a local drapery
store, American Country on Main Street in Ames.

The package from Byerly RV says: RV Designer Collections. Large sew in
carrier #6. Part #A107. 14 to a package, $6.99.

I think I paid more at Gookin RV, and less at the drapery shop, though
they had to order them. Like 75 cents each at Gookin and 25 cents each
at the drapery shop. The drapery shop had an extensive catalog of such
hardware. Perhaps a more urban drapery shop would have had a stock of
the things in the catalog. I did't try any fabric shops. My sucess was
adequate at these and I stopped hunting.

I just extracted one from the shower curtain rail of my '68 Caravel. Its
smaller on top. The button is .225" diameter and .125" tall (about 7/32
diameter by 1/8" tall. The shank is straight 1/8" diameter and 1/8"
tall. Then it tapers out and this one could have once been welded to the
plastic shower curtain but it has threads through it. Its thin and left
to the sewing machine to make holes.

I'll put google to work on that part number in a bit. Surely a good
on-line RV store will have drapery and shower curtain glides.

Gerald J.
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 13:33:46 -0800
From: RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: RE: [VAL] We're Home! (Long)

With a sn of 345 and the "Dutchman's cap" end panels, that is a 1956
model.  Could have sat on the Airstream dealers lot for awhile.
Best of luck,
RJ


> -----Original Message-----
> From: jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu [mailto:jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:38 PM
> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> Subject: Re: [VAL] We're Home! (Long)
>
>
> The number on the side plaque is 345.
> Jo Ann
>
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu [mailto:jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu]
> >> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 6:34 PM
> >> To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
> >> Subject: Re: [VAL] We're Home! (Long)
> >>
> >
> >>    Work continues on the Bubble, which I'm starting to think
> >> may not be
> >> a '57 at all but maybe a '56. Is the number of aluminum
> panels, front
> >> and rear, the main criteria? Ours has the funny shaped
> "corner-stone"
> >> section.
> >> Jo Ann

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:46:31 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: Shower curtain glides

http://www.tjtrailers.com/store/product13788.html has some of some size.
I'm unable to view their web page with the details.

The shower curtain slides look very much like the "tail slides" catalog
number 41441 pictured at:
http://www.go-rv.com/coast/do/catalog/page?dealerId=469&pageNum=210

Identified further as made by Recmar, their number 30400 Tail Slides.
Possibly sold on line by Boaters World. But another web page I can't see
because of javascripts and what I can see gives no useful information.

http://www.rvtechstop.com/gota.htm says:
>  Most RV dealers
>                 will have a Coast Distribution Catalog or an RV Supplies & Accessories Catalog.  
Several styles of curtain track hardware by RECMAR is also in the Coast catalog.  This
>                 hardware can be mounted on the ceiling or onto a wood frame attached to the ceiling.  
This track is
>                 used for side & windshield curtains


There are undoubtedly other possibilities. I have to go into town this
evening for a zoning commission meeting (hoping they vote my way to stop
an outsider building an unneeded mall in my front yard), and its
possible I could go early and visit a larger fabric shop with this
little slide in my pocket. That will be a lot more fun than the zoning
meeting!

Gerald J.
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 16:07:43 -0600
From: Dean <dean@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: Reese Springs on Pat's  Safari and Flying Cloud

Before you just weigh the hitch you may want to look
at setting the load in the trailer to 10% to 15% of
the total trailer weight.   In other words you may
want to shift some load around..  It will sure make travel
a lot safer.

Thank you
Dean L.
866-206-5962

On Dec 17, 2003, at 2:30 PM, Oliver Filippi wrote:

Pat,
As Dr. J. pointed out, the equalizing hitch spring bars are to transfer 
the
TONGUE Weight forward to equally load the front and rear axles of the 
tow
vehicle.

Airstream or the list could give you the tongue weights of your 
trailers.
Actually the best way would be to simply weigh them yourself using a 
lever
arrangement and a bathroom scale, per the owner's manual.

Oliver Filippi

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 15:25:50 -0700
From: "gshippen" <gshippen@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: Shower curtain glides

Dr. G,

Many thanks once again....hope you get the zoning under control!

Gerald Shippen
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From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: Shower curtain glides


> http://www.tjtrailers.com/store/product13788.html has some of some size.
> I'm unable to view their web page with the details.
>
> The shower curtain slides look very much like the "tail slides" catalog
> number 41441 pictured at:
> http://www.go-rv.com/coast/do/catalog/page?dealerId=469&pageNum=210
>
> Identified further as made by Recmar, their number 30400 Tail Slides.
> Possibly sold on line by Boaters World. But another web page I can't see
> because of javascripts and what I can see gives no useful information.
>
> http://www.rvtechstop.com/gota.htm says:
> >  Most RV dealers
> >                 will have a Coast Distribution Catalog or an RV Supplies
& Accessories Catalog.  Several styles of curtain track hardware by RECMAR
is also in the Coast catalog.  This
> >                 hardware can be mounted on the ceiling or onto a wood
frame attached to the ceiling.  This track is
> >                 used for side & windshield curtains
>
>
> There are undoubtedly other possibilities. I have to go into town this
> evening for a zoning commission meeting (hoping they vote my way to stop
> an outsider building an unneeded mall in my front yard), and its
> possible I could go early and visit a larger fabric shop with this
> little slide in my pocket. That will be a lot more fun than the zoning
> meeting!
>
> Gerald J.
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 19:03:30 -0500
From: "Scott Scheuermann" <s.l.scheuermann@xxxxxxxxxx.att.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: bike racks

Another reason not to load the rear of the trailer with a bunch of weight is
that the tongue weight is reduced. Reduce it too far and the trailer will
tow poorly.

I doubt that weight induced frame seperation is a myth. Yes Airstream DID
offer spare tire mounts on the rear, and they DID offer a bicycle rack.
HOWEVER please notice that neither of these things are currently offered!

My '60 Overlander (single axle) was starting to suffer from frame/body
seperation. It has the rear spare option. However this is now fixed (thanks
to an Airstream dealer in Iowa) for a REASONABLE price.

Scott
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From: "jon fitz" <fitzjo1@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: [VAL] Re: bike racks


> Perhaps bumper load-induced frame separation is a
> myth.  However, I definitely had frame separation on
> my 68.  Some of this was rot induced, as RJ suggested.
>  However, on the other side, the rather sparse
> hardware had pulled right through the aluminum
> channel.  It's hard to know if this happenned before
> or after the rot set in on the other side.  Certainly,
> the stresses on the sound side would have increased as
> the other side rotted and gave way.  But, the hardware
> was definitely a little minimal by my tastes.

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:52:13 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] We're Home! (Long)

Thanks RJ. Now I know why some of the gaskets that shouldn't fit, DO 
fit. Heck, I graduated from high school in '57. Now after thousands of 
dollars and sweat, I'll have to give it to my older brother. Is that 
fair?
Jo Ann
On 17, Dec 2003, at 1:33 PM, RJ.Dial@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:

> With a sn of 345 and the "Dutchman's cap" end panels, that is a 1956
> model.  Could have sat on the Airstream dealers lot for awhile.
> Best of luck,
> RJ

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 17:58:02 -0800
From: Joann Wheatley <jwheatle@xxxxxxxxxx.edu>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: bike racks

Is there a general rule regarding say, a single axle trailer and weight 
distribution between tongue and axle? My grey tank had to be shirt to 
just behind the axle on the Bubble and the black is behind that as is 
the porcelain potty. The fresh water, bed, propane tank, 2 batteries, 
and frig are forward of the axle. I'm holding my breath that it works 
out about right - at least when I start out as the fresh tank will be 
full and the other two almost empty.
Jo Ann
On 17, Dec 2003, at 4:03 PM, Scott Scheuermann wrote:

> Another reason not to load the rear of the trailer with a bunch of 
> weight is
> that the tongue weight is reduced. Reduce it too far and the trailer 
> will
> tow poorly.

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:30:54 -0600
From: Kevin D Allen <overlander64@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: RE: [VAL] Re: bike racks

Greetings Jo Annn!

The general placement of your fresh and waste tanks in the Bubble
approximate that used by Airstream in my '78 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre.
The water tank is under the front window (25 gallons), the black tank is
in the rear (9 gallons), the gray tank is in the rear street-side corner
(8 gallons).  The range/oven and furnace are over the axle on the
curbside and the water heater is just to the rear of the axle on the
street-side.  Actually the positioning of your gray tank is probably
somewhat better for weight management than the rear corner where it is
in my Minuet's original floorplan.  The tongue weight on my Minuet is
550 pounds with a gross weight of 3,100 pounds.

I also always try to empty the wastewater tanks before traveling any
great distance as the Minuet's ground clearance needs all of the help it
can get - - I am hoping that its new axle corrects most of its ground
clearance issues.

Kevin

Kevin D. Allen
1964 Overlander International/1999 GMC K2500 Suburban
1978 Argosy Minuet
1975 Cadillac Convertible (towcar in-training)
WBCCI/VAC #6359
 

- -----Original Message-----
From: valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com
[mailto:valist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] On Behalf Of Joann Wheatley
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 7:58 PM
To: valist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: bike racks

Is there a general rule regarding say, a single axle trailer and weight 
distribution between tongue and axle? My grey tank had to be shirt to 
just behind the axle on the Bubble and the black is behind that as is 
the porcelain potty. The fresh water, bed, propane tank, 2 batteries, 
and frig are forward of the axle. I'm holding my breath that it works 
out about right - at least when I start out as the fresh tank will be 
full and the other two almost empty.
Jo Ann

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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:54:21 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] Re: bike racks

10 to 15% on the tongue I read on this list today. You might need to
load groceries forward as well as pots and pans...

Gerald J.
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2003 22:54:31 -0600
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson, electrical engineer" <geraldj@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [VAL] RE: Shower curtain glides

By a vote of 5 to 2, P&Z recommended to council that they deny the
petition and that they delete the regional commercial outside the city
limits (and east of I-35) from the plan map. City council acts next
month after another public hearing.

The shopping trip was a failure. And as I walked out of the second store
I remembered doing that before with the same results. I've seen homes
with more drapery hardware than the fabric store and Hobby Lobby drapery
department.

Back to the Byerly RV catalog (www.byerlyrv.com 800 8RV DEAL)(Copyright
2001, The Coast Distribution System) Page 204 in the RV Designer
Collection, Looks like part#40778 fits the shower curtain track.
Described as "Small Sew in Carrier #7", 14 / pack, $3.49. Or on page
203, Recmar #3040 Tail Slides, Coast number 41441, $8.49 for a card of
50. Same thing on page 201 of this catalog, which was the same as one of
the links I posted earlier.

The best source I found a couple years ago was the local custom drapery
shop. At least they had a selection of slides in a vendor catalog. Took
about a week but the price was good. I'm not in a hurry to find shower
curtain tabs, I've too many other projects in the works for a while.

If all else fails around the country, I suppose I could buy a big sack
through that drapery shop and distribute them, but I'm not very willing
to become a shipping clerk to accomplish that.

Gerald J.
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