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Silver Streak Digest Wednesday, January 14 2004 Volume 01 : Number 038 ----------------------------------------------------------------- When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html Topics in Today's Digest: [SilverStreak] Trailer Pictures [none] Re: [SilverStreak] Trailer Pictures Re: [SilverStreak] Trailer Pictures [SilverStreak] Re: [SilverStreak] RE: Silver Streak Digest V1 #37 [SilverStreak] Re: SS remodel [SilverStreak] Interior appointments/parts for 1972 32' Continental available Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING [SilverStreak] Pictures Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING Re: [SilverStreak] Pictures Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING [SilverStreak] Found picture of polished spot Re: [SilverStreak] Found picture of polished spot Re: [SilverStreak] Found picture of polished spot [SilverStreak] RE: Silver Streak Digest V1 #37 Re: [SilverStreak] RE: Silver Streak Digest V1 #37 Re: [SilverStreak] Found picture of polished spot ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 05:55:21 -0600 From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: [SilverStreak] Trailer Pictures I have placed some pictures of James Thompson's restored Silver Streak on the website at http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/Thompson/Thompson.html - -Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:09:11 -0600 From: Mary Stiltjes <mstiltjes@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: [none] Hi Travis, > > Sounds exciting! > Ours is a 19 ft. also, a 1958. > > I posted some before and after pictures on our web-site a while back. > > http://homepage.mac.com/mstiltjes/PhotoAlbum20.html > > Filling ours with crumpled newspaper, and replacing it every day for a > couple of weeks is what finally took the "old dirty" smell out. > > Restoring ours was a lot more fun than I thought it was going to be. > She's a real head turner at the campgrounds we've traveled to. > > Mary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:26:17 +0900 From: Jeffrey Fryckman <fryckman@xxxxxxxxxx.att.ne.jp> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Trailer Pictures Wow! Nice SS! What year is it and what size? I'm curious because I just purchased one that is almost identical - sink/toilet/sofa/chairs/headboard colors all the same. It is nearly as clean too, in the shape I got it. I picked it up for $5200 and was wondering if that was OK. It just needs to be washed thoroughly and dusted inside. I'll attach a photo. Hope it makes it to you. Jeff Fryckman [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 08:28:40 -0600 From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Trailer Pictures Sorry Jeff, You can't send any pictures to the list. It strips off all attachments so that someone can't send a virus to the list. If you want to send me your pictures directly, I will see if I can put them on the site too. I do have a backlog, and don't always get around to posting these pictures right away. - -Tom - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Fryckman" <fryckman@xxxxxxxxxx.att.ne.jp> To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Trailer Pictures > Wow! Nice SS! What year is it and what size? I'm curious because I > just purchased one that is almost identical - > sink/toilet/sofa/chairs/headboard colors all the same. It is nearly as > clean too, in the shape I got it. I picked it up for $5200 and was > wondering if that was OK. It just needs to be washed thoroughly and > dusted inside. > > I'll attach a photo. Hope it makes it to you. > > Jeff Fryckman > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble] > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type multipart/appledouble] > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. > > To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to > http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 06:36:05 -0800 From: "Ardith Fowler" <afowler11@xxxxxxxxxx.net> Subject: [SilverStreak] Re: Mary - that is to DIE for..do mine, do mine. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Stiltjes" <mstiltjes@xxxxxxxxxx.com> To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:09 AM Hi Travis, > > Sounds exciting! > Ours is a 19 ft. also, a 1958. > > I posted some before and after pictures on our web-site a while back. > > http://homepage.mac.com/mstiltjes/PhotoAlbum20.html > > Filling ours with crumpled newspaper, and replacing it every day for a > couple of weeks is what finally took the "old dirty" smell out. > > Restoring ours was a lot more fun than I thought it was going to be. > She's a real head turner at the campgrounds we've traveled to. > > Mary - ------------------------------------------------------------------ When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:57:30 -0800 From: "Merrell, Marcia" <Marcia.Merrell@xxxxxxxxxx.va.gov> Subject: [SilverStreak] RE: Silver Streak Digest V1 #37 I also remember seeing one that had re-painted or otherwise had replaced the SS decal. I remember that it looked good. I thought of taking a rubbing of mine and having a sign company make me a new one (mine is fading, but still legible). - -----Original Message----- From: sslist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com [mailto:sslist-admin@xxxxxxxxxx.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 12:30 AM To: sslist-digest@xxxxxxxxxx.com Subject: Silver Streak Digest V1 #37 Silver Streak Digest Tuesday, January 13 2004 Volume 01 : Number 037 - ----------------------------------------------------------------- When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html Topics in Today's Digest: [SilverStreak] 19' Silver Streak Re: [SilverStreak] 19' Silver Streak - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 21:43:35 -0600 From: Travis Pitts <travisP@xxxxxxxxxx.net> Subject: [SilverStreak] 19' Silver Streak Hello Folks, My name is Travis from Marked Tree, AR. I am now a proud new owner of what I think is a 19' Silver Streak. It is VERY dirty at this time since I just brought it home. It has been used as a stationary residence for a while so I don't believe it has had many road miles on it. It was parked under some trees and has quite a bit of tree sap on it. It seems to come off pretty easily with Simple Green ( diluted) - I have taken some "Before" pictures but have not uploaded them to my computer yet. I have a problem though. The beautiful insignias on the front and rear of the unit are missing. I can see where they used to be and could make out the "Silver Streak" but not the model. I believe it to be a 1968 by the "ok to sell in California" medal on the rear - it starts with 68, but, I cannot find anything on this beauty to tell me the model ! I am pretty excited about it, I will be getting the title tomorrow and maybe it will indicate what model it is. In the mean time maybe someone can give me a hint. Also, since the insignias are missing ( maybe somebody is counterfeiting SS's) are there any replacements available? Thanks, Travis - - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.559 / Virus Database: 351 - Release Date: 1/7/04 - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 22:19:56 -0600 From: Ros <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] 19' Silver Streak Hi Travis! Congratulations on your new addition! I wish I could give you some information on your trailer but I am not familiar with that model. We have a 33.5' S.S. Eleganth and we love it more than we ever imagined although, it is a little big for just the two of us. In the dark recesses of my memory, I seem to remember someone who had some SS decals made or, it could have been that he/she just had the SS emblem repainted. If I recall more I will let you know. I would be very interested is seeing your before-and-after pictures. Ros At 09:43 PM 1/12/04, you wrote: >Hello Folks, >My name is Travis from Marked Tree, AR. I am now a proud new owner of what >I think is a 19' Silver Streak. It is VERY dirty at this time since I just >brought it home. It has been used as a stationary residence for a while so >I don't believe it has had many road miles on it. It was parked under some >trees and has quite a bit of tree sap on it. It seems to come off pretty >easily with Simple Green ( diluted) - I have taken some "Before" pictures >but have not uploaded them to my computer yet. I have a problem though. The >beautiful insignias on the front and rear of the unit are missing. I can >see where they used to be and could make out the "Silver Streak" but not >the model. I believe it to be a 1968 by the "ok to sell in California" >medal on the rear - it starts with 68, but, I cannot find anything on this >beauty to tell me the model ! I am pretty excited about it, I will be >getting the title tomorrow and maybe it will indicate what model it is. In >the mean time maybe someone can give me a hint. Also, since the insignias >are missing ( maybe somebody is counterfeiting SS's) are there any >replacements available? > >Thanks, > Travis > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.559 / Virus Database: 351 - Release Date: 1/7/04 > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. > >To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to >http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html - ------------------------------ End of Silver Streak Digest V1 #37 ********************************** - ----------------------------------------------------------------- When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:44:46 -0800 From: Marian & Hounds <vistadel@xxxxxxxxxx.net> Subject: [SilverStreak] Re: SS remodel Magnificent job Mary! What a difference you made. I have a 56 Safari and it was pretty original and clean already when I got it. The only changes were from the last owner who let it freeze and had to replace the water pipes to the bathroom. They also recovered the couch/bed in the dining area and made matching window valances. That's about it. I need to take photos and get them up somewhere so we can all compare our 'finds'. Thanks for taking the time to put yours up, now I'm motivated!!! marian On Jan 13, 2004, at 6:09 AM, Mary Stiltjes wrote: > Hi Travis, >> Sounds exciting! >> Ours is a 19 ft. also, a 1958. >> I posted some before and after pictures on our web-site a while back. >> http://homepage.mac.com/mstiltjes/PhotoAlbum20.html >> Mary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:10:42 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: mirau_public <mirau_public@xxxxxxxxxx.net> Subject: [SilverStreak] Interior appointments/parts for 1972 32' Continental available To make a long story short, we are removing all the interior appointments from our 1972 Continental Luxury Liner to make the trailer more useful to us. (We were not able to find a buyer interested in restoring the trailer who didn't expect everything to work already. Plus we decided it was more useful to have trailer than cash.) Here are pictures of the trailer in its current state (more or less): http://home.earthlink.net/~mirau_public/ If you are interested in any parts, cabinetry, etc. please contact me directly at mirau_public@xxxxxxxxxx.net. You can also leave a message at 520-325-4085. The trailer is located in Tucson, AZ. I'll be using the fridge for just a little while but the stove, heater, potty, etc. are up for grabs. I've already removed the bed pedestal and cupboards in the bedroom passenger side, but everything is still sitting in the yard. Michelle R. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 16:28:40 -0600 From: Ros <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING List members: We have really enjoying seeing the pictures of Silver Streaks. Again, I am toying with the idea of polishing off the anodizing on our 33.5 footer. Who on this list has done this and just how huge of a job is it? I have all sorts of buffers and air-tools. This is such a nice looking trailer when washed and rubbed with kerosene or some other petroleum distillate however, it doesn't last but a few weeks and then it goes back to dull again. I realize that once polished by compounding the protective anodizing off, it will require touch-up or re-doing frequently. What I don't know is how long (average?) it lasts before needing polishing. I would assume that would depend upon the climate and here in Houston has to be very bad for any raw metal. Anyway, can anyone give me some input on this such as what materials/brands, time required, tools required and how many heating pads will I need at night? What size did you do? They really look great with the mirror shine! Thank you. Ros ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:03:42 -0600 From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING You can get the anodized finish off of your trailer, but it is a huge job. I have seen the results where the anodized finish was taken off of a 19' Streamline. It was sanded off. Polish will not take the finish off. It was done by Robert Madrigal in Whittier, California, who hired some immigrant labor, I think, to do at least some of the rough work. He had done some of it himself, using acid along with the sandpaper, and his hands showed the results. The grit he used was a little coarse, and I forget just what grit he should have used. I can find out however, and let you know. I also have some pictures somewhere of his unit and will dig them out. When I find them I can put them up on the site. The last I heard, he was going to have the unit polished next, so as to remove the sanding marks. I don't know if he did so or not, but can find this out also, and probably have him arrange to send me some current pictures if this was done. Robert is not on the internet. Several years ago, I ran across a shiny Silver Streak, and thought that it had been manufactured that way, but Bob Ashby tells me that it had to have been originally anodized. I have pictures of that unit somewhere too, and will look for them. As you say, once the anodized finish is removed, the aluminum must be periodically polished so as to remove the oxidization. I do this more or less yearly on my 22' Streamline, using a product called Zephyr Pro 40 which is available in Houston from Rush Peterbilt on 610 near the Budweiser brewery. I have done this by hand in the past, but intend to try a polisher next time. I don't think the Houston climate is any different than other climates in its effects, as what happens is that the aluminum oxidizes and the resulting oxidization is very tight, so that the process can only occur on the surface, and the metal does not oxidize all the way through the was that iron rusts. - -Tom - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros" <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 4:28 PM Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING > List members: > > We have really enjoying seeing the pictures of Silver Streaks. > > Again, I am toying with the idea of polishing off the anodizing on our 33.5 > footer. Who on this list has done this and just how huge of a job is > it? I have all sorts of buffers and air-tools. This is such a nice > looking trailer when washed and rubbed with kerosene or some other > petroleum distillate however, it doesn't last but a few weeks and then it > goes back to dull again. > > I realize that once polished by compounding the protective anodizing off, > it will require touch-up or re-doing frequently. What I don't know is how > long (average?) it lasts before needing polishing. I would assume that > would depend upon the climate and here in Houston has to be very bad for > any raw metal. > > Anyway, can anyone give me some input on this such as what > materials/brands, time required, tools required and how many heating pads > will I need at night? What size did you do? > > > They really look great with the mirror shine! > > Thank you. > > Ros > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. > > To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to > http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:37:31 -0600 From: Ros <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING Thanks, Tom. I would not even consider sanding. As you mentioned, once sanded, the scratches must be polished out. There are all sorts of grades of compound and I would ^^^^ASSUME^^^^ there is a grade available to remove the oxide put on by the factory. In looking at one of the rallys, I saw a fellow with polisher in hand and he had polished about 1 sq.ft. of a SS where as all the rest of the unit was undone. That makes me wonder if it cannot be done sans the sanding. Also, caustic soda will clean aluminum but is very, very dangerous to work with as if just a tad splashes into your eyes, you have major problems. It will eat skin, too. However, wearing goggles and gloves could circumvent all of that. Nitric acid will also clean it. Nitric is much, much more dangerous....extremely so. Anyway, I would be interested in ALL INPUT AND PICTURES. Tom, I know this is hard to quantify but just how hard is it to MAINTAIN your trailer on a yearly basis? How long does it take you to bring it back by hand-rubbing? Thanks for your input. Ros At 05:03 PM 1/13/04, you wrote: >You can get the anodized finish off of your trailer, but it is a huge job. >I have seen the results where the anodized finish was taken off of a 19' >Streamline. It was sanded off. Polish will not take the finish off. It >was done by Robert Madrigal in Whittier, California, who hired some >immigrant labor, I think, to do at least some of the rough work. He had >done some of it himself, using acid along with the sandpaper, and his hands >showed the results. The grit he used was a little coarse, and I forget just >what grit he should have used. I can find out however, and let you know. I >also have some pictures somewhere of his unit and will dig them out. When I >find them I can put them up on the site. > >The last I heard, he was going to have the unit polished next, so as to >remove the sanding marks. I don't know if he did so or not, but can find >this out also, and probably have him arrange to send me some current >pictures if this was done. Robert is not on the internet. > >Several years ago, I ran across a shiny Silver Streak, and thought that it >had been manufactured that way, but Bob Ashby tells me that it had to have >been originally anodized. I have pictures of that unit somewhere too, and >will look for them. > >As you say, once the anodized finish is removed, the aluminum must be >periodically polished so as to remove the oxidization. I do this more or >less yearly on my 22' Streamline, using a product called Zephyr Pro 40 which >is available in Houston from Rush Peterbilt on 610 near the Budweiser >brewery. I have done this by hand in the past, but intend to try a polisher >next time. I don't think the Houston climate is any different than other >climates in its effects, as what happens is that the aluminum oxidizes and >the resulting oxidization is very tight, so that the process can only occur >on the surface, and the metal does not oxidize all the way through the was >that iron rusts. > >-Tom > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ros" <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> >To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com> >Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 4:28 PM >Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING > > > > List members: > > > > We have really enjoying seeing the pictures of Silver Streaks. > > > > Again, I am toying with the idea of polishing off the anodizing on our >33.5 > > footer. Who on this list has done this and just how huge of a job is > > it? I have all sorts of buffers and air-tools. This is such a nice > > looking trailer when washed and rubbed with kerosene or some other > > petroleum distillate however, it doesn't last but a few weeks and then it > > goes back to dull again. > > > > I realize that once polished by compounding the protective anodizing off, > > it will require touch-up or re-doing frequently. What I don't know is how > > long (average?) it lasts before needing polishing. I would assume that > > would depend upon the climate and here in Houston has to be very bad for > > any raw metal. > > > > Anyway, can anyone give me some input on this such as what > > materials/brands, time required, tools required and how many heating pads > > will I need at night? What size did you do? > > > > > > They really look great with the mirror shine! > > > > Thank you. > > > > Ros > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. > > > > To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to > > http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. > >To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to >http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:53:54 -0600 From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING Well, the sanding did work, even if Robert used too coarse a grit. He is planning on having it professionally polished, and they have told him that the polishing will get out such sanding marks that he now has. Actually, I believe that he had been told (after he already sanded the unit) that a finer grit would have done the job very nicely. I think maybe he got this information from Craig Dorsey of Vintage Vacations. As you probably know, the polish is really an abrasive too, i.e., jeweller's rouge. So one way or another, you are using a grit on the finish. The body itself can have the anodized finish taken off, but you do have a slight problem right up against joints, such as up against the windows. I think I remember Robert telling me that he was told to use something like a kitchen scouring pad. It takes me a couple of days to do the trailer when I do it by hand. I don't work non-stop, but rather a section at a time, and the length of time really depends on how ambitious I am, which in Houston, actually depends on the outside temperature. I did talk to Robert, and he has not had the trailer polished as yet. - -Tom - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros" <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING > Thanks, Tom. > > I would not even consider sanding. As you mentioned, once sanded, the > scratches must be polished out. > > There are all sorts of grades of compound and I would ^^^^ASSUME^^^^ there > is a grade available to remove the oxide put on by the factory. In looking > at one of the rallys, I saw a fellow with polisher in hand and he had > polished about 1 sq.ft. of a SS where as all the rest of the unit was > undone. That makes me wonder if it cannot be done sans the sanding. > > Also, caustic soda will clean aluminum but is very, very dangerous to work > with as if just a tad splashes into your eyes, you have major problems. It > will eat skin, too. However, wearing goggles and gloves could circumvent > all of that. Nitric acid will also clean it. Nitric is much, much more > dangerous....extremely so. > > Anyway, I would be interested in ALL INPUT AND PICTURES. > > Tom, I know this is hard to quantify but just how hard is it to MAINTAIN > your trailer on a yearly basis? How long does it take you to bring it back > by hand-rubbing? > > Thanks for your input. > > Ros ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:07:13 -0600 From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: [SilverStreak] Pictures I put the pictures of Jeff Fryckman's Silver Streak up on the website. They are with the other pictures in the Silver Streak section. - -Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:11:29 -0600 From: Ros <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING Thanks again, Tom. Now, here is a really hard one: How bad does it look at the end of a year? Put another way, how long will it maintain the very attractive mirror-finish? I am assuming that at the end of a year, it is badly in need of polishing? I am asking many questions because once removed, the anodizing cannot be returned unless one is a mashchist. I am tired of rubbing the trailer down with kerosene/thinner, etc., every several weeks so that it looks very good. I would rather polish it yearly if not a supremely huge undertaking. I can experiment with some compound on the underbelly, I suppose. Ros At 05:53 PM 1/13/04, you wrote: >Well, the sanding did work, even if Robert used too coarse a grit. He is >planning on having it professionally polished, and they have told him that >the polishing will get out such sanding marks that he now has. > >Actually, I believe that he had been told (after he already sanded the unit) >that a finer grit would have done the job very nicely. I think maybe he got >this information from Craig Dorsey of Vintage Vacations. > >As you probably know, the polish is really an abrasive too, i.e., jeweller's >rouge. So one way or another, you are using a grit on the finish. > >The body itself can have the anodized finish taken off, but you do have a >slight problem right up against joints, such as up against the windows. I >think I remember Robert telling me that he was told to use something like a >kitchen scouring pad. > >It takes me a couple of days to do the trailer when I do it by hand. I >don't work non-stop, but rather a section at a time, and the length of time >really depends on how ambitious I am, which in Houston, actually depends on >the outside temperature. > >I did talk to Robert, and he has not had the trailer polished as yet. > >-Tom >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ros" <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> >To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com> >Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:37 PM >Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING > > > > Thanks, Tom. > > > > I would not even consider sanding. As you mentioned, once sanded, the > > scratches must be polished out. > > > > There are all sorts of grades of compound and I would ^^^^ASSUME^^^^ there > > is a grade available to remove the oxide put on by the factory. In >looking > > at one of the rallys, I saw a fellow with polisher in hand and he had > > polished about 1 sq.ft. of a SS where as all the rest of the unit was > > undone. That makes me wonder if it cannot be done sans the sanding. > > > > Also, caustic soda will clean aluminum but is very, very dangerous to work > > with as if just a tad splashes into your eyes, you have major problems. >It > > will eat skin, too. However, wearing goggles and gloves could circumvent > > all of that. Nitric acid will also clean it. Nitric is much, much more > > dangerous....extremely so. > > > > Anyway, I would be interested in ALL INPUT AND PICTURES. > > > > Tom, I know this is hard to quantify but just how hard is it to MAINTAIN > > your trailer on a yearly basis? How long does it take you to bring it >back > > by hand-rubbing? > > > > Thanks for your input. > > > > Ros > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. > >To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to >http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:12:44 -0600 From: Ros <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Pictures Great. Thanks Ros At 06:07 PM 1/13/04, you wrote: >I put the pictures of Jeff Fryckman's Silver Streak up on the website. They >are with the other pictures in the Silver Streak section. > >-Tom > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. > >To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to >http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:28:12 -0600 From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING It doesn't look too bad at all. Now remember, when I do it by hand, I don't achieve a real mirror finish -- just a shiny one, which I think is all I really want. If you want mirror, then you are likely need to do it more frequently than once a year, and with a polisher, and to need to spend more time. I just get a quick shiny finish. I looked on my site to see if I could see what it normally looks like, and it is probably more like you will see in the first two pictures of Shady Dell at http://www.tompatterson.com/Vacation/ShadyDell/ShadyDell.html. As I said, not too bad! - -Tom - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros" <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING > Thanks again, Tom. > > Now, here is a really hard one: How bad does it look at the end of a > year? Put another way, how long will it maintain the very attractive > mirror-finish? I am assuming that at the end of a year, it is badly in > need of polishing? > > I am asking many questions because once removed, the anodizing cannot be > returned unless one is a mashchist. > > I am tired of rubbing the trailer down with kerosene/thinner, etc., every > several weeks so that it looks very good. I would rather polish it yearly > if not a supremely huge undertaking. > > I can experiment with some compound on the underbelly, I suppose. > > Ros > > > > At 05:53 PM 1/13/04, you wrote: > >Well, the sanding did work, even if Robert used too coarse a grit. He is > >planning on having it professionally polished, and they have told him that > >the polishing will get out such sanding marks that he now has. > > > >Actually, I believe that he had been told (after he already sanded the unit) > >that a finer grit would have done the job very nicely. I think maybe he got > >this information from Craig Dorsey of Vintage Vacations. > > > >As you probably know, the polish is really an abrasive too, i.e., jeweller's > >rouge. So one way or another, you are using a grit on the finish. > > > >The body itself can have the anodized finish taken off, but you do have a > >slight problem right up against joints, such as up against the windows. I > >think I remember Robert telling me that he was told to use something like a > >kitchen scouring pad. > > > >It takes me a couple of days to do the trailer when I do it by hand. I > >don't work non-stop, but rather a section at a time, and the length of time > >really depends on how ambitious I am, which in Houston, actually depends on > >the outside temperature. > > > >I did talk to Robert, and he has not had the trailer polished as yet. > > > >-Tom > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Ros" <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> > >To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 5:37 PM > >Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] POLISHING > > > > > > > Thanks, Tom. > > > > > > I would not even consider sanding. As you mentioned, once sanded, the > > > scratches must be polished out. > > > > > > There are all sorts of grades of compound and I would ^^^^ASSUME^^^^ there > > > is a grade available to remove the oxide put on by the factory. In > >looking > > > at one of the rallys, I saw a fellow with polisher in hand and he had > > > polished about 1 sq.ft. of a SS where as all the rest of the unit was > > > undone. That makes me wonder if it cannot be done sans the sanding. > > > > > > Also, caustic soda will clean aluminum but is very, very dangerous to work > > > with as if just a tad splashes into your eyes, you have major problems. > >It > > > will eat skin, too. However, wearing goggles and gloves could circumvent > > > all of that. Nitric acid will also clean it. Nitric is much, much more > > > dangerous....extremely so. > > > > > > Anyway, I would be interested in ALL INPUT AND PICTURES. > > > > > > Tom, I know this is hard to quantify but just how hard is it to MAINTAIN > > > your trailer on a yearly basis? How long does it take you to bring it > >back > > > by hand-rubbing? > > > > > > Thanks for your input. > > > > > > Ros > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. > > > >To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to > >http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. > > To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to > http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:33:25 -0600 From: Ros <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: [SilverStreak] Found picture of polished spot It is this picture in your website, that I was referring. http://www.tompatterson.com/Trailers/Silver/DSCN1929a.html I wish I knew more about this picture such as what compound this guy is using, if the polished spot had been done before this final picture and how long it took. Ros ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 18:43:17 -0600 From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Found picture of polished spot That was taken at the Silver Trailer Social in Calistoga, Ca. last May during a polishing seminar. He was using a compound called Nuvite Polish. The polished spot had not been done before he started in on it, and it only took a minute or two. I do have the write-up on the polishing and will scan it and put it up on the website, either tonight or tomorrow. It is fairly detailed. - -Tom - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros" <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:33 PM Subject: [SilverStreak] Found picture of polished spot > It is this picture in your website, that I was > referring. http://www.tompatterson.com/Trailers/Silver/DSCN1929a.html > > I wish I knew more about this picture such as what compound this guy is > using, if the polished spot had been done before this final picture and how > long it took. > > Ros ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:10:47 -0600 From: Ros <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Found picture of polished spot Great! That sounds encouraging. I don't relish the idea of doing a 33 footer but, I think it will be worth it if I live long enough. If that is your trailer in the first two pictures, Tom, you should be proud of it as it looks very attractive. What do you put on it to keep it during re-polishing? What brand of wax or preservative? I will look for the information on Nuvite on your site. By the way, where is Shady Dell? Ros At 06:43 PM 1/13/04, you wrote: >That was taken at the Silver Trailer Social in Calistoga, Ca. last May >during a polishing seminar. He was using a compound called Nuvite Polish. >The polished spot had not been done before he started in on it, and it only >took a minute or two. > >I do have the write-up on the polishing and will scan it and put it up on >the website, either tonight or tomorrow. It is fairly detailed. > >-Tom > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ros" <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> >To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com> >Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:33 PM >Subject: [SilverStreak] Found picture of polished spot > > > > It is this picture in your website, that I was > > referring. http://www.tompatterson.com/Trailers/Silver/DSCN1929a.html > > > > I wish I knew more about this picture such as what compound this guy is > > using, if the polished spot had been done before this final picture and >how > > long it took. > > > > Ros > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. > >To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to >http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:47:12 -0600 From: Travis Pitts <travisP@xxxxxxxxxx.net> Subject: [SilverStreak] RE: Silver Streak Digest V1 #37 Hi Ros, Well, I have the title to the 19 footer now... I am including a "BEFORE" photo of it, it looks pretty tired, but, I plan on bringing her back to her glory days. I would like some help on identifying what model it is - I will knock some of the dirt off of her and send another photo... Thanks for the reply - Travis - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.559 / Virus Database: 351 - Release Date: 1/7/04 [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of jan2004 and camper0024.jpg] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 20:54:17 -0600 From: Ros <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] RE: Silver Streak Digest V1 #37 Travis, Glad you have the title and I am guessing that it didn't have the model information that you wanted. Due to viruses and such, Tom Patterson, the owner of the SS List, doesn't allow picture to be sent/distributed to the list members. Perhaps he will post your pictures on his website where there are lots of other pictures of not only Silver Streaks but others, as well. Looking forward to seeing them Ros . At 08:47 PM 1/13/04, you wrote: >Hi Ros, >Well, I have the title to the 19 footer now... I am including a "BEFORE" >photo of it, it looks pretty tired, but, I plan on bringing her back to her >glory days. I would like some help on identifying what model it is - I will >knock some of the dirt off of her and send another photo... Thanks for the >reply - >Travis > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.559 / Virus Database: 351 - Release Date: 1/7/04 > >[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of >jan2004 and camper0024.jpg] > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary original text. > >To unsubscribe or change to a digest format, please go to >http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:56:03 -0600 From: "Tom Patterson" <tomp@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Found picture of polished spot I don't put anything on the trailer between polishes. If anything, the oxidation is a preservative itself. Shady Dell is in Bisbee, Arizona. It is quite a RV park, and well worth the visit. They do have spaces for rent, such as the one we were in, but what they also have is quite a few vintage trailers. You can see them in the pictures, and you can rent them for a place to stay for the night. You can read all about it at: http://www.theshadydell.com/about.html. - -Tom - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ros" <ros@xxxxxxxxxx.com> To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Found picture of polished spot > Great! That sounds encouraging. > > I don't relish the idea of doing a 33 footer but, I think it will be worth > it if I live long enough. > > If that is your trailer in the first two pictures, Tom, you should be proud > of it as it looks very attractive. > What do you put on it to keep it during re-polishing? What brand of wax or > preservative? > > I will look for the information on Nuvite on your site. > > By the way, where is Shady Dell? > > Ros ------------------------------ End of Silver Streak Digest V1 #38 ********************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------- When replying to a message, please delete all unnecessary Digest text To unsubscribe or change to an e-mail format, please go to http://www.tompatterson.com/Silverstreak/List/listoffice.html
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