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Silver Streak Digest Tuesday, June 21 2005 Volume 01 : Number 176
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Topics in Today's Digest:
[SilverStreak] trailer weight
Re: [SilverStreak] trailer weight
Re: [SilverStreak] Propane line under trailer?
[SilverStreak] Automatic Battery Charger
[SilverStreak] Propane line under trailer?
Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
Re: [SilverStreak] trailer weight
Re: [SilverStreak] Automatic Battery Charger
Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
[SilverStreak] Wheel Bearing seals
Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
Re: [SilverStreak] Propane line under trailer?
Re: [SilverStreak] Wheel Bearing seals
RE: [SilverStreak] Wheel Bearing seals
Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 07:30:20 -0600
From: "Kathy Hollister" <kathyh@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [SilverStreak] trailer weight
Does anyone have alternate resources to check the tongue weight and overall
weight of a 1961 SS Rocket, 27'?
According to a trailer brochure I found on the net, it is listed as 4070#
with a hitch weight of 300#. This seems light to me as my Aluminum 2-horse
trailer weights 6000#.
Trailer is at the shop. It was my husband's grandfathers so we haven't
towed it yet and I am wanting to buy an Equalizer on line.
Thanks in advance.
Kathy Hollister
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:53:53 EDT
From: MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] trailer weight
Hi Kathy, my 1958 silver streak clipper 23' lists out at 3000# with about
your same tongue weight so your data may be correct. jim -)
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 11:59:13 EDT
From: MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Propane line under trailer?
Hi Michelle, in my 1958 silver streak clipper, i'm redoing my refrigerator
to a new three way, updating my gas stove and also have installed a new h2o
heater with an opening to the outside. I have also upgraded the gas space
heater controls to include a thermostat. i am extending my original outside and
underneath the unit gas lines to meet these needs and will stabilize the
lines with rubber coated clamps - hoping that this will all work. any thoughts
from others that have already been down this road?? jim -)
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:11:13 -0400
From: joepatwink@xxxxxxxxxx.net (Joe Winkler)
Subject: [SilverStreak] Automatic Battery Charger
Jim,
I know how you feel. There are many questions about the best way to go
with the electrical system.
I for one would not even worry about the 12V part of the frig. They take
huge amounts of juice and it is better to use 120v if you are plugged in or
propane if you are boondocking.
My long term plan is to use the present converter/battery charger and a
deep cycle battery for now and then upgrade the system to a intellipower/gel
cycle battery for the future. The reason I would change is that the gels will
last much longer if you don't overchange them and they can be stored inside
the trailer, which helps in cold weather camping.
Living in Wyoming and wanting to spend as much time at high altitude and
away from camp grounds means I will try to make my systems use less juice and
still have a working battery. A week away from plugging in will be my goal,
when I can get to that goal is the question.
Joe in Wyoming
MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>Hi Joe, i'm at a cross-roads myself with my 12 volt system: to use a
>converter or a battery charger?? i'm having to totally rewire my 12 v system and
>am getting advise regarding the pos/neg of each system (for battery, water
>pump, new three-way refrigerator & aux. lights) and am interested in all
>comments before i make my final decision. any comments are appreciated. jim -)
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 13:42:33 -0400
From: joepatwink@xxxxxxxxxx.net (Joe Winkler)
Subject: [SilverStreak] Propane line under trailer?
Michelle,
On my Silver Steak (made in 1969) the gas line under the trailer is black
steel pipe, it then changes to copper tube when it goes thru the floor. Any
and all fittings should be checked with soapy water for bubbles when you turn
it on. More than one RV has been blown to smithereens by a propane leak.
Especially make sure that the disconnected water heater and furnace lines
have been plugged off when those appliances were removed.
Joe in Wyoming
mirau_public <mirau_public@xxxxxxxxxx.net> wrote:
>We are still deciding what elements to leave in the interior of our 32'
>Continental and are debating the safety of leaving the original gas lines
>in the SS. The original gas stove/oven is still connected to the main gas
>line, as is the electric/gas fridge. But the gas heater under the stove,
>and the hot water heater are no longer functional and the gas line has been
>disconnected to the hot water heater. The propane bottles at the front of
>the trailer don't have much in them, but they've been shut off at the bottle
>and the rubber hose disconnected from the trailer.
>
>With half the fixtures disconnected from the gas lines, is it safe to
>hook the stock propane tank up to the main gas line?
>
>And, does anyone know whether the propane line between the stove and
>the main gas line is rubber or metal? How likely is it for the
>fittings/line to rot or corrode?
>
>Thanks in advance for any thoughts on this, Michelle
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:49:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: david bailey <dbwentfishin@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
Why is it that steel wool should not be used?
db
MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
Welcome to the silver streak group. i'm also a struggling member working on
a 1958 clipper. the main lesson that i learned the hard way is to only use
aluminum wool if you need to rather than steel wool. i can provide a source
if you need it. jim -)
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 12:44:40 -0600
From: "CHRIS H BROWER" <chrishbr@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
I'm not sure "any" wool would be good. I think it would scratch the surface
rather than polish it. Tom has recommend a soft abrasive before but I can't
remember the name of it. Just think what steel wool does to the side of a
nice shiny cooking pan. (no more shine).....but then maybe I'm wrong... good
luck.
chrishbr
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Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
Why is it that steel wool should not be used?
db
MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com<mailto:MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
Welcome to the silver streak group. i'm also a struggling member working on
a 1958 clipper. the main lesson that i learned the hard way is to only use
aluminum wool if you need to rather than steel wool. i can provide a source
if you need it. jim -)
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 14:50:10 -0500
From: "Steve Pfiffner" <madrone1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] trailer weight
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Kathy Hollister" <kathyh@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:30 AM
Subject: [SilverStreak] trailer weight
> Does anyone have alternate resources to check the tongue weight and
> overall
> weight of a 1961 SS Rocket, 27'?
> According to a trailer brochure I found on the net, it is listed as 4070#
> with a hitch weight of 300#. This seems light to me as my Aluminum
> 2-horse
> trailer weights 6000#.
> Trailer is at the shop. It was my husband's grandfathers so we haven't
> towed it yet and I am wanting to buy an Equalizer on line.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Kathy Hollister
>
Kathy,
Hitch weight is usually around 10%, according to official records a 1962
Avion 27ft had a dry weight of 3360lbs, your 4000+ figure could very well be
the gross. One of the truly wonderful things about the trailers of the 50's
and 60's is how light they are, water tanks were smaller and there were no
gray water tanks in that period.
Steve
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:41:40 -0500
From: "James Day" <JDAY1@xxxxxxxxxx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Automatic Battery Charger
Jim and Joe,
I find that a small solar battery charger works very well to keep my battery
up when not in use and helps to "extend" our stand alone time, especially if
you are out of the trailer during the day. Harbor Freight Tools sells one
that is fairly cheap with the charge controler built in. You can catch it
on sale for about $20. It has a 12 volt plug, I ran my wire in from the
roof vent and lay the solar cell on the roof. Or you could add clamps and
go directly to the battery.
Good luck,
James Day
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From: "Joe Winkler" <joepatwink@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 12:11 PM
Subject: [SilverStreak] Automatic Battery Charger
> Jim,
> I know how you feel. There are many questions about the best way to go
> with the electrical system.
> I for one would not even worry about the 12V part of the frig. They
> take huge amounts of juice and it is better to use 120v if you are plugged
> in or propane if you are boondocking.
> My long term plan is to use the present converter/battery charger and a
> deep cycle battery for now and then upgrade the system to a intellipower/gel
> cycle battery for the future. The reason I would change is that the gels
> will last much longer if you don't overchange them and they can be stored
> inside the trailer, which helps in cold weather camping.
> Living in Wyoming and wanting to spend as much time at high altitude
> and away from camp grounds means I will try to make my systems use less
> juice and still have a working battery. A week away from plugging in will be
> my goal, when I can get to that goal is the question.
> Joe in Wyoming
>
> MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
>
> >Hi Joe, i'm at a cross-roads myself with my 12 volt system: to use a
> >converter or a battery charger?? i'm having to totally rewire my 12 v
> >system and
> >am getting advise regarding the pos/neg of each system (for battery,
> >water
> >pump, new three-way refrigerator & aux. lights) and am interested in all
> >comments before i make my final decision. any comments are appreciated.
> > jim -)
>
>
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 15:07:47 -0700
From: GaelicHounds <GaelicHounds@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
Steel wool will leave particles which will rust.
marian '67 Silver Streak - So Oregon
"Unanswered questions are not as dangerous as Unquestioned answers."
On Jun 20, 2005, at 10:49 AM, david bailey wrote:
> Why is it that steel wool should not be used?
>
> db
>
> MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
> Welcome to the silver streak group. i'm also a struggling member
> working on
> a 1958 clipper. the main lesson that i learned the hard way is to only
> use
> aluminum wool if you need to rather than steel wool. i can provide a
> source
> if you need it. jim -)
>
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:30:52 -0600
From: "Kathy Hollister" <kathyh@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: [SilverStreak] Wheel Bearing seals
Our 1961 SS Rocket-27', is in the RV shop getting some work after sitting
for 18 years.
The RV Store had trouble finding seals for the wheel bearings. Finally they
did but they really had to search.
Where does everyone else find these seals for their older SS?
Kathy Hollister
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:09:24 EDT
From: MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
Thanks for the question. i understand that the steel wool fibers will get
imbedded into the aluminum and then thru electrolysis wil start to turn black,
leaving many little black spots in the aluminum finish. i did use steel
wool for light paint removal but since have vigorously rewolled using aluminum
wool and so far can't see any harm that i did. i have a source for aluminum
wool if anyone is interested. jim -)
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:11:01 EDT
From: MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
i had very good luck using the aluminum wool for a thorough cleaning,
without scratching but also used plenty of liquid paint remover along with it and a
very light touch.... jim -)
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:15:36 EDT
From: MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Propane line under trailer?
Hi Michelle, my 1958 has copper tubing through the underneath then entering
the actual trailer just below the stove and heater. i am extending this same
line underneath to reach my new refrigerator and the new hot water heater.
best regards, jim -)
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 20:17:43 EDT
From: MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Wheel Bearing seals
Hi Kathy, i found new wheel bearing thru a shop that specialized in wheels
and bearings. they had no problem matching the numbers for bearings and
seals. best regards, jim -)
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:36:21 -0600
From: "Kathy Hollister" <kathyh@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: RE: [SilverStreak] Wheel Bearing seals
Jim, Do you have a name, address, phone #, web address of your contact for
the wheel bearings and pads; just for future reference.
Thanks
Kathy Hollister
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Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Wheel Bearing seals
Hi Kathy, i found new wheel bearing thru a shop that specialized in wheels
and bearings. they had no problem matching the numbers for bearings and
seals. best regards, jim -)
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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:40:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: david bailey <dbwentfishin@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
try a little 0000 steel wool some time on a chromed surface...even without any
polish. It will shine it quite nicely and not leave any scratches. I used 0000
steel wool and 409 to do a first wash on my SS that had not been washed in
years...did a pretty good job.
db
CHRIS H BROWER <chrishbr@xxxxxxxxxx.com> wrote:
I'm not sure "any" wool would be good. I think it would scratch the surface
rather than polish it. Tom has recommend a soft abrasive before but I can't
remember the name of it. Just think what steel wool does to the side of a
nice shiny cooking pan. (no more shine).....but then maybe I'm wrong... good
luck.
chrishbr
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From: david bailey
To: sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] New Member
Why is it that steel wool should not be used?
db
MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com wrote:
Welcome to the silver streak group. i'm also a struggling member working on
a 1958 clipper. the main lesson that i learned the hard way is to only use
aluminum wool if you need to rather than steel wool. i can provide a source
if you need it. jim -)
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