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Silver Streak Digest Wednesday, February 2 2005 Volume 01 : Number 132
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Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
[SilverStreak] Silver Streak inquiry
Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
Re: [SilverStreak] Silver Streak inquiry
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 00:35:32 -0600
From: "Jim and Dorothy Dupree" <dottiedup@ev1.net>
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
The condensation is a normal occurrence when you have extreme temperatures
between the outside and inside of the rig and high humidity. The original
weep vents were on the outside corners and had alum. covers. It had been
suggested buy the manufacture in later years to seal them up. They were
thought to allow the evaporation of moister between the skin. The temp.
differential results in the condensation on the windows and even on the
screws that fasten the inside walls. The most effective way to reduce it is
to open the ceiling vents or run the vent fans. I have also had the
condensation freeze on the inside in 0 or - degree weather.
Overall there is no adverse affects except it may dampen the curtains enough
to stain them over time. There are actually drains on the inside of the
windows on my 85 model.
Jim
1985 Model 3411
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From: "celina rivera" <mariacelina66@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:34 AM
Subject: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 00:54:05 -0600
From: "Carolyn" <hown@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
That sounds like what has happened to ours. There is a piece of paneling I
took off in the kitchen because I thought we had a leak. But I told hubby
it seemed the moisture was coming from the actual window glass itself.
Since I have not been in it much didn't know for sure. The panel top layer
is pretty rotted so I'm going to take the adjoining piece off also and put
in maybe wainscoting. It's wood, hope it isn't too thick. The insulation
wasn't wet and hasn't been wet behind it. I will seal the wainscoting on
both sides with some type of sealer, hope it looks ok. Just took it out
from the middle seam on down. I'm glad to know this information, kind of
solves the mystery. I think this trailer had not been used in some time
before we bought it and had just sat. It's in pretty good shape overall.
It's an 83 model 3411. I will look for the drains in the windows.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim and Dorothy Dupree" <dottiedup@ev1.net>
To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:35 AM
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
> The condensation is a normal occurrence when you have extreme temperatures
> between the outside and inside of the rig and high humidity. The original
> weep vents were on the outside corners and had alum. covers. It had been
> suggested buy the manufacture in later years to seal them up. They were
> thought to allow the evaporation of moister between the skin. The temp.
> differential results in the condensation on the windows and even on the
> screws that fasten the inside walls. The most effective way to reduce it
> is to open the ceiling vents or run the vent fans. I have also had the
> condensation freeze on the inside in 0 or - degree weather.
> Overall there is no adverse affects except it may dampen the curtains
> enough to stain them over time. There are actually drains on the inside of
> the windows on my 85 model.
>
> Jim
> 1985 Model 3411
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "celina rivera" <mariacelina66@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:34 AM
> Subject: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 08:17:36 -0600
From: "Steve Pfiffner" <madrone1@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
If you have never read Phred's Poop Sheets on RV's it is a great resource,
here is the one on moisture:
http://www.phrannie.org/moisture.html
Steve
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From: "Carolyn" <hown@xxxxxxxxxx.net>
To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
> That sounds like what has happened to ours. There is a piece of paneling
I
> took off in the kitchen because I thought we had a leak. But I told hubby
> it seemed the moisture was coming from the actual window glass itself.
> Since I have not been in it much didn't know for sure. The panel top
layer
> is pretty rotted so I'm going to take the adjoining piece off also and put
> in maybe wainscoting. It's wood, hope it isn't too thick. The insulation
> wasn't wet and hasn't been wet behind it. I will seal the wainscoting on
> both sides with some type of sealer, hope it looks ok. Just took it out
> from the middle seam on down. I'm glad to know this information, kind of
> solves the mystery. I think this trailer had not been used in some time
> before we bought it and had just sat. It's in pretty good shape overall.
> It's an 83 model 3411. I will look for the drains in the windows.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim and Dorothy Dupree" <dottiedup@ev1.net>
> To: <sslist@xxxxxxxxxx.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 12:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
>
>
> > The condensation is a normal occurrence when you have extreme
temperatures
> > between the outside and inside of the rig and high humidity. The
original
> > weep vents were on the outside corners and had alum. covers. It had been
> > suggested buy the manufacture in later years to seal them up. They were
> > thought to allow the evaporation of moister between the skin. The temp.
> > differential results in the condensation on the windows and even on the
> > screws that fasten the inside walls. The most effective way to reduce
it
> > is to open the ceiling vents or run the vent fans. I have also had the
> > condensation freeze on the inside in 0 or - degree weather.
> > Overall there is no adverse affects except it may dampen the curtains
> > enough to stain them over time. There are actually drains on the inside
of
> > the windows on my 85 model.
> >
> > Jim
> > 1985 Model 3411
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:58:07 EST
From: MSC06USNret@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: [SilverStreak] Silver Streak inquiry
Good morning all, i'm still working on my 1958 SS Clipper with the current
focus being on plumbing. I've removed the metal piping - cutting out in
sections - and found that it did not ever have a holding tank. I'm trying to
decide whether to put one in and then where to find one that would be shallow
enough to fit and yet to serve any purpose OR just replumb as it was with
everything going direct into a tot-a-long. Another consideration would be to just
use a self contained toilet (for emergency uses) and then just replumb as it
was for grey water only to the tot-a-long. anyone with thought to share
would be sincerely appreciated. jim -)
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:38:16 EST
From: Jotatwcd@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
You may want to check into a de-humidifyer and I believe they make RV sized
models
that would pull the moisture out of your trailer. Also, make sure you use
your bathroom exhaust vent for showering and also the vent over the stove when
cooking. This will pull
steam out and help prevent it from going to your windows and turning to
mildew in the closets.
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:41:47 EST
From: Jotatwcd@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
Use your power vents periodically, especially when cooking or showering.
This will route most of the moisture out. I full-timed for many years in
different makes or RV's and believe me, moisture is unavoidable even in a dry
climate. AC helps in the summer.
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:47:06 EST
From: Jotatwcd@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
Those little "weep holes" would probably not be the main reason for moisture
in the trailer but I did seal all of mine up with clear silicone from the
outside as recommended by our old buddy Bob Ashby. This prevents moisture and
bugs from getting inside the walls. Silver Streaks are not so airtight that
these vents are necessary. The inside veneer is attached to the aluminum
framing which houses the fiberglass insulation between the inside and exterior
skin. This is not a vacuum packed area as the new RV's are constructed so it
gets adequate ventilation.
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:52:29 EST
From: Jotatwcd@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
There are small drains on my 77 windows as well so this will allow the
condensation to drip
out, especially when the sun hits the glass in the daytime. I always crack
several windows slightly to help control interior moisture. I keep old
towels handy to wipe the windows on the inside when they become coated with
moisture. This typically only happens in very cold climates when the temperature
outside is drastically lower than the interior. My storm windows help
considerably with this however for early spring or late fall camping.
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 19:55:47 EST
From: Jotatwcd@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Re: Perspiration
I have noticed that some owners will keep windows open for ventilation when
they
store their rigs. This could have been a source of moisture if the trailer
sat
without use for some time. My 77 has no areas of concern like this so I am
really lucky.
All of the veneer and laminate in the kitchen area is in very good condition
for its age.
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Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:00:16 EST
From: Jotatwcd@xxxxxxxxxx.com
Subject: Re: [SilverStreak] Silver Streak inquiry
If you are going to that much work of re-plumbing your SS, you may want to
figure out a way to install a holding tank near the waster water drain area.
You would probably need to measure a space above the belly pan bottom and
floor which is usually about 6-8 inches.
There are all types of tanks for fresh, gray and black water on the market
so the dimensions would dictate what you could do. This would make using your
vintage SS much more enjoyable while on the road. This would not be an easy
job however but since you have it torn apart, this would be the time.
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