Re: [SilverStreak] To wire a 6 pin round plugs

[<MSC06USNret@xxxxxxx>]

Hi Ken, thanks for the added thoughts.  I have three towing vehicles  and 
five trailers and needed to make everything compatible.  The wiring  information 
that i shared is looking at the male fixtures on my towing  vehicles.  i 
completely rewired three trailers (horse, flatbed, and stock)  using the seven-ply 
wiring harness wire.  The wiring on my 1958 Silver  Streak was wire by wire, 
function by function matched at the female  plug as the original colored wiring 
was not exactly the same (some with stripes,  etc.).  jim cooper  
_msc06usnret@aol.com_ (mailto:msc06usnret@aol.com)   Ramona, CA
 
 
In a message dated 5/28/2008 9:37:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ke5dfr@sbcglobal.net writes:

The  diagram in my 70 SS for the Bargman plug was different from the  current
usage.  When we got the trailer, I had to rewire the trailer  side plug to
match my tow vehicle.  Somewhere along the way, the pins  were used
differently.
With any older RV, it is best to check the wiring  pins to see if
they will match your tow vehicle.
When you describe the  pins below, are you
looking into the male plug or the female  receptacle?  Need to note where you
are looking.
Ken Wilson  
KE5DFR@sbcglobal.net 
Cypress, Texas



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From: "MSC06USNret@aol.com"  <MSC06USNret@aol.com>
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Sent:  Wednesday, May 28, 2008 9:56:01 AM
Subject: Re:
[SilverStreak] To wire a  6 pin round plugs

I've recently had to rewire
several seven wire  plugs and have conferred  with 
several local RV dealers. 
They all  concur that the standard wiring is  (as 
viewed from the top of  the
plug looking at it):  at 1:00 o'clock -  black wire 
for  battery charging, at
3:00 o'clock -  brown wire for  right  turn/stop 
light, at 5:00 o'clock - blue
wire for trailer brakes, at  7:00  o'clock - white 
wire for ground, at 9:00
o'clock - red wire  for left turn  signal/stop light, at 
11:00 o'clock green
wire -  tail/running lights, and the  center plug - yellow 
for  auxiliary/back
up lights.  This seems to be  somewhat different  from 
others comments so hope
i'm not adding to the confusion  but  it does seems to be a 
current industry
standard for my area.   best  regards, jim


In a message dated 5/25/2008
8:18:02  A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
joepatwink@netscape.net  writes:

Al,? 
Thanks for the info on wiring. My plug follows the  description, white is 
ground and yellow is left turn etc. but I am getting  thrown off by the fact 
that 
on some drawings the ground is on the  upper pin on the drivers side on 
the 
vehicle and in other drawings it  is on the upper pin on the passenger 
side. If 
you wire the vehicle  according to the one drawing and your trailer
to  the 
other you  wire brakes to ground. Maybe some people didn't understand
that  the  
plug and the sockets are mirror images of each other. 
? The other  
thing that that threw me is that the plug on the truck, and its 
a  chevy, had 
the 12V wire put in the center like it should be, but there was  
not juice to 
it. It is colored red, as per the wiring instructions  that come 
in the
booklet  in the glove box. Any idea on what I  need to go to get juice 
to it,
is there a  fuse in the fuse box or  something?

? Thanks for you  help.

Joe
(Original  Message)
Unfortunately there is no actual  standard for  connector
wiring.
Usually the seventh connection in a 7 pole   connector is used for
back-up 
lights 
on the trailer.
Look at  
www.rverscorner.com/wiring/6pole.html .
Everything I have seen is  according 
to the ASME color code. I've never seen 
anything wired  according to the  "RV"
color code.
ASME:
White - Ground
Brown  - Tail &  marker
Green - Right
turn/brake
Yellow - Left  turn/brake
Blue -  Electric brake
Black - +12VDC
power/trailer  battery charge

This  coincides with what is usually found on  GM
vehicles.
I've never seen a 7  pole Bargman/Pollak connector  wired according
to the 
code 
molded on the  plugs and  receptacles.
My SS had an obsolete gray
plastic round pin plug   that sort of mated with a 
freight truck receptacle.
The plug wasn't  long  enough to go all the way into 
the 
metal receptacle.
The  metal plug would  go into the gray plastic receptacle. 
The 
wiring  order
was all   different.
Al