Subject: Re: [airstream] cb radio
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 12:53:14 EST
From: LuckKY1T@aol.com
Reply-To: airstream@airstream.net

Rob rants 'n raves:

1) Where is incoming e-mail stored before you access it? Is there some kind of special server auto-hooked to a radio, or do you have to ask a humid bean to send your mail?
Byron babbles in response:

BEANS to the beans, I say.

Actually, yes, the software has been put together very nicely (by an active RVer) which allows the email on the internet side to be stored on the host's machine. In this case, by "Host" I'm referring to the radio amateur who is providing the service to the RV'ing community. And as I indicated before,
there are a fair number of them, all over the world. List upon request!

2) When the mail comes in, what's the link between the radio and your computer? Are the data analog or digital? Is there a special A/D converter, or some other kind of black box, between the radio and the computer?
Yes, yes, and yes. Wait, "yes" doesn't apply to a couple of those. :) So, in explanation:

We designed and built (seems like decades ago) special radio modems that we call "terminal node controllers". The TNCs are EXTREMELY intelligent and typically have between a hundred and two hundred software commands available to you (the operator) and/or the host software. The one I use cost something around $125 new as I recall and does a superb job, even with the 27 year old
radio I'm using here in the Airstream.

The data itself is digital, while it resides on the pc, of course. But before it can be spit out the radio port, it needs to be converted to analog, by way of the TNC, just as a MO(ulator)DEM(odulator) would do for phone line use. 'Course, that's all transparent -- and wonderfully simple -- from the
perspective of the operator. That would be you.
 

3) What's the transmission rate?
Don't ask. PITIFULLY slow by modern standards. But nobody cares; they're so delighted to have free access to their email, with no phone line, no cell service, none of that stuph, that they'd sell their first-borns to the TNC manufacturers in thankful payback.
are any 'net functions besides e-mail available this way?
Just this morning, I happened upon an article in CQ VHF which indicates that you can spit out HTML (but ya better not even THINK about graphics due to the puny size of the "pipeline") and if you're clever enough to know how to use Linux, you CAN do some client-server web stuff. NOT for the faint of heart, and definitely NOT in wide useage on amateur radio circuits. Not yet,
anyway. For now, be thinking "email" and "text".
 
5) Given that we already have computers-cum-modems, what kind of $ are involved in getting the other necessary eqt?
My response will be with regard to the way *I* do it. If you have a Technician class of license, then you'd want to do things by way of the amateur radio satellites (free, of course), but which means that the equipment will be different and arguably more expensive.

But the way *I* do it is with the High Frequency PACTOR systems. So let's tally things up:

1. HF radio. Free. Had it (and one other just like it but newer) GIVEN to me.
2. Pactor modem. $125 bucks. Cheaper if used.
3. Antenna. Here, I splurged and spent $300 to experiment with a new design. One of the "Hustler" brand antennas would do just perfectly for a third (or less) of that amount.

Cheap. But remember, once you have the gear, you can do MUCH MUCH MUCH more than "just" email. You've got the whole world (literally) there at your Airstream's fingertips.

Best regards,

Byron Hurder, KY1T